You guys just don't know what you're doing.  Jeesh ;-)

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excude my typtos.

> On Jan 8, 2015, at 6:08 PM, Mike <mik...@msn.com> wrote:
> 
> Actually I beg to differ. It’s a system that needs to be improved upon.
>  
> From: Josh Warcop [mailto:j...@warcop.com] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 7:01 PM
> To: Mike ; 'Dana Tong'; 'Erick Wellnitz'; 'Charles Goldsmith'
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues
>  
> It's not a nightmare. It's a consequence of losing important information.
> From: Mike 
> Sent: ‎1/‎8/‎2015 6:52 PM
> To: 'Dana Tong'; 'Josh Warcop'; 'Erick Wellnitz'; 'Charles Goldsmith'
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues
> 
> Dana,
>  
> I’ve been down this road before. You need to do the following:
>  
> 1)      Have your Cisco account team open a PSTS case
> 2)      Find out if the ESW contract changed and became unattached from UCSS
> 3)      SO# this one is huge..sorry to say it’s your golden ticket for 
> entitlements you need to find it
> 4)      Find all the emails from your previous upgrades you would have needed 
> to prove entitlements to get those so finding that will def help
> 5)      Cross your fingers
>  
> Welcome to the Cisco licensing nightmare J
>  
> From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
> Dana Tong
> Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2015 6:10 PM
> To: Josh Warcop; Erick Wellnitz; Charles Goldsmith
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues
>  
> Hmmm. Kind of hard. They went from 4.1(3) on MCS hardware to 6.0 -> 6.1(3)
>  
> Then purchased CUWL and went to 7.x
>  
> And migrated to 8.6(2) on UCS B series
>  
> And finally upgraded to 10.x.
>  
> Plus moved offices 4 times in the process. Will see if they have the original 
> PAKs.
>  
> From: Josh Warcop [mailto:j...@warcop.com] 
> Sent: Friday, 9 January 2015 8:35 AM
> To: Dana Tong; Erick Wellnitz; Charles Goldsmith
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: RE: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues
>  
> You're not going to get far until you can prove what was paid for. They are 
> not being unhelpful intentionally as their systems can only go back so far. 
> Being that old those records are no longer online and have been archived.
> 
> If the client has lost everything including PAK keys you're going to have to 
> get with the Cisco AM or that original partner to dig up entitlements. Hint: 
> PAK keys have the Cisco SO written on them typically in the bottom left 
> corner. 
> 
> All of this should've been done prior to the upgrade using the LCU utility 
> and case opened with Cisco to check entitlement.
> From: Dana Tong
> Sent: ‎1/‎8/‎2015 5:19 PM
> To: Erick Wellnitz; Charles Goldsmith
> Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues
> 
> Hi Erick,
>  
> They did all of the LCU Tool stuff prior to upgrade. All of the contracts 
> were active at time of upgrade.
>  
> I still have the common issue of only obtaining licenses that the new PLM 
> reports and not what the customer has paid for.
>  
>  
> The original purchase (SO#) was some 8 years ago with another partner.
>  
> Cheers
> Dana
>  
>  
> From: Erick Wellnitz [mailto:ewellnitzv...@gmail.com] 
> Sent: Friday, 9 January 2015 8:04 AM
> To: Charles Goldsmith
> Cc: Dana Tong; cisco-voip@puck.nether.net
> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Licenses upgrade issues
>  
> That's what we did to make sure everything was good with their contracts 
> contained the right licenses.  Then go through the pre-upgrade process to 
> verify then the post upgrade goes pretty fast.
>  
> 5 calendar days, three of which were weekend and holiday, for my last upgrade.
>  
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Charles Goldsmith <wo...@justfamily.org> 
> wrote:
> Get the customer's Cisco AM involved is my advice.
>  
> On Thu, Jan 8, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Dana Tong <dana_t...@bridgepoint.com.au> 
> wrote:
> Guys,
>  
> A customer of mine did an upgrade last August and still has not been able to 
> obtain the licenses that they are entitled to. 
>  
> The customer first bought CUWL licenses some 8 years ago and have had an 
> active and valid UCSS and ESW contract for this entire time. 
>  
> Global Licensing provided the customer with a mix of UCL Enhanced and 
> Enhanced Plus licenses at the time of upgrade to get the system operational. 
> (They didn't have their Owner ID's set and it was an 8-10 upgrade.) They've 
> been battling with GLO ever since to get their CUWL licenses. 
>  
> In the 5mths since the upgrade the customers UCSS went overdue but they have 
> since renewed with SWSS. GLO still won't provide the licenses. 
>  
> Does anyone have any suggestions on how to get some traction here. 
>  
>  
> Regards,
>  
> Dana Tong
>  
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