This is the way I handle scenarios like this as well – create a temporary 
partition for the DNs, etc. and use BAT to bulk edit them when it is time to 
move to production. Having the profiles exposed shouldn’t cause any issues as 
long as the DNs are hidden.

Rob


From: cisco-voip [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Ryan 
Huff
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2015 8:06 AM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migration strategy


Any elements that you are going to pre-stage that are a part of the dial plan 
(translations, route patterns, DNs, transformations ...etc) wilk all need to be 
isolated from your currently migrated phones.

So the DNs on your device profiles would likely need to be in an isolated 
partition, but the device profile itself probably doesn't need to be in an  
isolated device pool.

If you do this, remember to use a CLLI or some unique descriptor in the 
description field of all your pre-staged elements, it will make it very easy 
for BAT to find things later on.

Thanks,

Ryan


-------- Original Message --------
From: 秀王 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 11:32 PM
To: Ryan Huff <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Migration strategy
CC: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Hi Ryan,

let's say my phones are on a temp partition not reachable by other CSS. My UDP 
(user device profile) are on a valid partition shared by others ( Ie. 
P_Internal) but they are not logged in anywhere.
Will this confused the CUCM? Or i shall place the UDP on temp partition as 
well. If so, can BAT assist me in migrating from TEMP partition to actual 
partition (P_Internal)?
Cheers,
Ki Wi

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Ryan Huff 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

I'm not, sure I completely understand your questions but I'll attempt to answer 
based on my understanding.

Yes, you can pre-config devices and users in CCM prior to migration. If they 
are Cisco IP phones, you'll need the MAC address and model of the phone at a 
minimum.

If they are non Cisco IP phones, you'll need to pre configure 3rd party sip 
devices (which is a different license requirement than a Cisco IP phone).

Place the preconfigured dial plan that isnt migrated yet (on CCM), in a temp. 
partition that the already migrated phones cannot access. As you migrate, 
change that partition using BAT, to the correct partition for the portion of 
phones you migrated.

Thanks,

Ryan


-------- Original Message --------
From: 秀王 <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2015 09:15 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: [cisco-voip] Migration strategy
Currently the client have avaya and cisco linked together using SIP.
Cisco UCM cluster have users in the production environment.

I'm are going to cutover more sites from avaya to cisco. Is it possible to 
preconfigure the users, extension number (let's say 87XXX range), phones and 
the user device profiles in advance?

I'm thinking that if I preconfigure those information, the cucm will think that 
those extension number (87XXX) are local and unregistered.
Is there a way to make CUCM thinks that in order to reach 87XXX range, it will 
still reach out to Avaya using the SIP trunk? Is there any setting in the route 
pattern can do that?
I thinking that CUCM will always find a more "exact" match locally instead of 
through other source like translation pattern or route pattern.


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