Silly question, I know but I gotta ask; you tried replacing / re-crimping / 
punch-down the cabling between Viking and FXO (you may have and I am just 
forgetting when you mentioned it)?

- Is the pair a "borrowed" pair from CAT5 STP or UTP? And finally, is the cable 
laying on (or really close) to any electrical equipment / lighting fixtures / 
AC units ... etc (really, anything that might generate enough EMF to interfere 
with the transmission).

Thanks,

Ryan

On Jul 11, 2016, at 3:26 PM, Damisch, Kevin 
<kevin.dami...@oneneck.com<mailto:kevin.dami...@oneneck.com>> wrote:

Another update….

I went through all 10 impedance values (shut/no shut after each one) and got 
mixed results doing a few test calls on each one.  Even leaving it at 600r 
(default) will sometimes work and not work.  The call *ALWAYS* connects no 
matter what the impedance value is, , but the ** during the call intermittently 
works to unlock the door.  At first, I thought it was about every 2 to 3 
attempts.  But, then I could get 3 in a row to work, then I could go 5 attempts 
without it unlocking.  Very random.  I’ve tried various values for input gain 
and output attenuation in case it was either too faint or too hot for the 
Viking unit’s sensitivity.  Didn’t make a difference.

Thanks!
Kevin

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Damisch, Kevin
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2016 9:14 AM
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com<mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>>; Norton, Mike 
<mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca<mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FXO port to Viking C-1000B door entry controller

Just giving an update on this one….

Adding “no battery-reversal” did keep the call connected.  I was able to press 
** and heard the 2-tone confirmation from the Viking controller.  It *was* 
unlocking the door this morning on roughly every other call attempt, but now it 
is not unlocking it anymore for some reason.  I still get the 2-tone 
confirmation after pressing **, the door is not unlocking, and the call stays 
connected until the IP phone side hangs up or I shut/no shut the FXO port.  
That part doesn’t really bother me because if the IP phone user gets the call, 
they press **, then they just need to hang up their handset.  Normally, the 
Viking unit is supposed to be disconnecting it after unlocking it.  Also, I 
tried adding “supervisory disconnect anytone”, but that didn’t make any 
difference.  I’m going to do some more tests and check back with TAC too.

Good discussion on this thread.  Ryan – I did not read the book you mentioned.  
Instead, I picked up a copy of “Paranormal Activity in IOS-Based Devices” to 
see if that will shed some light on what’s going on.

Thanks!
Kevin

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of Ryan 
Huff
Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2016 7:07 AM
To: Norton, Mike <mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca<mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FXO port to Viking C-1000B door entry controller

Mike & Wes,

While analog is the past, clearly still relevant enough to understand and by 
extension, the underlying electrical behavior and interaction of analog 
telephony hardware. I thank both of you for teaching me (and hopefully others 
listening on the list) something.

A special thanks to Wes for giving me a new autodidactic topic over this past 
holiday weekend, "Manchester Encoding". The book, "Unidirectional Manchester 
Encoded Data Transfer via Fiber Optic Link" by Robert G. Ragsdale Jr. is a 
fantastic read and has a few good chapters that dig into the "meat and 
potatoes".

That book is available on Amazon but in the spirit of analog, I sourced my copy 
at the library ;).

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 4, 2016, at 7:10 PM, Norton, Mike 
<mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca<mailto:mikenor...@pwsd76.ab.ca>> wrote:
I’ve been working on an old analog paging controller this afternoon, so I’ve 
been trudging around in the docs for FXS/FXO commands...

I have a pretty good hunch that “no battery-reversal” should take care of your 
issue. The debug lines you shared initially indicate that the FXO port is 
hanging up because it is sensing that the answer supervision signal (reversed 
voltage) went away (that’s the “normal_battery” part).

“no battery-reversal” will disable answer supervision.

-mn

From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Norton, Mike
Sent: July-04-16 3:41 PM
To: Damisch, Kevin 
<kevin.dami...@oneneck.com<mailto:kevin.dami...@oneneck.com>>; Ryan Huff 
<ryanh...@outlook.com<mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>>; Wes Sisk (wsisk) 
<ws...@cisco.com<mailto:ws...@cisco.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FXO port to Viking C-1000B door entry controller

Re-reading the thread, I noticed something...

“no supervisory disconnect signal” actually *enables* tone-based disconnect 
supervision for *any tone*. Definitely not what you want!!!

The “no” part of that command is that you are disabling power-denial disconnect 
signaling. In other words, it is a toggle between power-denial signaling or 
tone signaling.

Not sure what IOS version you’re on but at some point Cisco renamed the command 
to make it more clear.

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/td/docs/ios-xml/ios/voice/vcr4/vcr4-cr-book/vcr-s12.html#wp1525047420

“[supervisory disconnect anytone] replaces the no supervisory disconnect signal 
command. If you enter this command, the supervisory disconnect anytone feature 
is enabled, and the message supervisory disconnect anytone is displayed when 
show commands are entered.”

-mn


From: cisco-voip [mailto:cisco-voip-boun...@puck.nether.net] On Behalf Of 
Damisch, Kevin
Sent: June-30-16 12:06 AM
To: Ryan Huff <ryanh...@outlook.com<mailto:ryanh...@outlook.com>>; Wes Sisk 
(wsisk) <ws...@cisco.com<mailto:ws...@cisco.com>>
Cc: cisco-voip@puck.nether.net<mailto:cisco-voip@puck.nether.net>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] FXO port to Viking C-1000B door entry controller

Ryan – the voice port is set to impedance 600r already.

Wes – I’ll try “no supervisory disconnect signal” and see what happens.

Thanks!
Kevin
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