Ah – very interesting. I was wondering about that. Thanks for the tip.

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From: Ryan Ratliff (rratliff) <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, August 31, 2018 9:26 AM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]>
Cc: Brian Meade <[email protected]>; cisco-voip list <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Retrofitting sx20 quickset with trc6 and touch10 panel

One thing to add about using the remote vs Touch. The CE software will 
completely change the UI when a Touch is paired so you won’t get the menu 
on-screen to navigate via the remote. I don’t think it’s intended to use both 
on the same codec, so YMMV.

For instructions on connecting the Touch10 refer to the Peripherals section for 
the Admin Guide for your version.
Here’s the 9.0 doc, these are all PDFs so I can’t link directly to the section.
https://www.cisco.com/c/dam/en/us/td/docs/telepresence/endpoint/ce90/sx20-administrator-guide-ce90.pdf

If the SX and Touch are on the same network (definitely recommended) if you 
reboot the SX the Touch will be able to discover it for pairing. This discovery 
is only available for 10 minutes after the codec boots.

-Ryan


On Aug 30, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Omg. Why can’t they include that info in some of the data sheets. Ugh. I mean, 
I knew remote pairing was available, but I didn’t know it was the only way.

I’m hoping I can get this thing to register to CUCM via Expressway without much 
effort. I’d rather do that than open up all the ports on the voice VLAN to make 
the touch panel and proximity work.

Lelio


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Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

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From: Brian Meade <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 2:36 PM
To: Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: Jeremy Bresley <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>; cisco-voip 
voyp list <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Retrofitting sx20 quickset with trc6 and touch10 panel

For SX20, you have to pair the Touch10 over the network.  You can't attach it 
direct.  There were originally some plans for a USB to Ethernet adapter for 
Touch10 but that got cancelled.

On Thu, Aug 30, 2018 at 2:22 PM Lelio Fulgenzi 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Thanks Jeremy… especially the part about the upgrades. I’m on the fence about 
pushing them out from CUCM just now, especially with how few we have.

I’d like both the TRC6 and the touch 10 in order to display the differences 
between the two to the users who may have one. The Touch 10 is quite a bit more 
expensive – I’m not sure I’m even going to get one, let alone two. 😊

After what you mention, and reviewing the documentation though, I’m lost on one 
piece… How the heck do I connect the touch 10 to the SX20? The SX20 only has 
one network port.  What am I missing here?

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Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 2W1
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From: cisco-voip 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> 
On Behalf Of Jeremy Bresley
Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2018 1:44 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] Retrofitting sx20 quickset with trc6 and touch10 panel

On 8/30/18 13:15, Lelio Fulgenzi wrote:

I’m looking at retrofitting our two sx20 quicksets with a minimum of a trc6 and 
hopefully with a touch10 panel. This all in an effort to support the clients 
getting a webex room kit which is using CE software.

I’ll need to upgrade the SX20 to the latest CE software once I get at least one 
of the two peripheral upgrades mentioned above.

Just wondering if anyone has done this?

A little confusion between the SX data sheet (updated March 2018) which refers 
to the CTS-CTRL-DVX-10 and a power injector (CTS-PWR-AIR-INJ5=) vs the Touch 10 
data sheet (updated December 2017) which indicates the SX20 uses the CS-TOUCH10 
model, with the CTS-CTRL-DV10 for IX series, and no mention of power injector.

Data sheet references:

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/telepresence-sx20-quick-set/data_sheet_c78-688342.html

https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/products/collateral/collaboration-endpoints/telepresence-touch/data_sheet_c78-646041.html

The CTS-CTRL-DVX-10 is the original model touch 10 (identifiable by the USB 
ports on the side, and the plastic flap over the ethernet jack).  This is 
supported on all currently shipping endpoints including the IX.
The CS-TOUCH10 is the new model which removed some of the hardware which wasn't 
used (audio jack, USB ports) and simplified the ethernet jack on the back 
(eliminated the flap which tended to break off).  It also can be identified by 
the Cisco logo on the bottom of the face and the foot stand which folds 
completely flat (done to make wall mounting easier).  This one is only 
supported on the MX/SX/Room units.
Power injector is required if you're using either one directly connected to an 
SX or MX or a RoomKit (RoomKitPlus has PoE for the Touch10 interface).  Or you 
can connect it to a PoE switch and provide power that way as well.  If it's not 
directly connected to the endpoint, you will have to give it the IP/admin 
credentials for the unit to connect to when you install it.
Also, if you have a Touch10, why bother with the TRC6?  If I have a Touch10, 
I'm doing everything from that instead of the remote.  User experience is MUCH 
better/simpler with the Touch10.
One thing that confuses people with the newer CE code is there's no longer a 
separate PKG file for standalone upgrades, you just upload the COP file 
directly to the endpoint to upgrade it if you aren't pushing it from CUCM.  
(Can also use the COP file from TMS if the units are VCS registered.)
Jeremy
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