I am not thinking right?  Can’t a dns srv get the call routed to a specific 
host? Then a quick expressway transform to change the domain, and you’re done.

Think of it as a different internal domain va external domain.

[email protected] does goes to expressway.companyinfrastructuredomain.com which 
does a quick trans to [email protected]


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> On Oct 4, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Interesting. I’ll have to look into that.  Thx. 
> 
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> 
>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 10:32 PM, Ryan Huff <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> Webex Hybrid Calling (with Expressway B2B), could in theory, help accomplish 
>> this. The codec is still cloud registered, though Hybrid calling would allow 
>> for an on-prem URI to be associated with the Webex remote destination of the 
>> codec. 
>> 
>> The call would come into the on-prem URI via B2B like normal, and assuming 
>> the Hybrid integration was setup correctly, ring the Webex remote 
>> destination which rings the cloud registered codec.
>> 
>> It’s a little bit of an ugly trombone, but it does work..
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 22:09, Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Darn. Double darn. 
>>> 
>>> Let’s hope webex offers up custom domain registration for devices soon. 
>>> 
>>> ‘Cause [email protected] is a bit much. 
>>> 
>>> -sent from mobile device-
>>> 
>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | N1G 
>>> 2W1
>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected]
>>>  
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>>>  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 9:05 PM, Ryan Huff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> What it sounds like you are trying to do to me, is allow the call to 
>>>> ultimately setup with a URI different than the URI that was dialed, 
>>>> without the calling party being the wiser.
>>>> 
>>>> DNS won’t be able to do anything with regards to that I don’t think, 
>>>> because it really sounds like you’re trying to manipulate/transform the 
>>>> called URI, and you’ll need something to interact with the SIP message 
>>>> stack for that I’d think.
>>>> 
>>>> You can create a round robin A record, that resolves to multiple IP 
>>>> addresses, so when the client looks up the DNS SRV, it receives multiple 
>>>> targets to try before considering the SRV target “unreachable” (SRV 
>>>> weights and priorities determine the ordering of the target addresses 
>>>> resolved for the client). However, this won’t have the ability to change 
>>>> the called URI, which is ultimately what I think you’re attempting in the 
>>>> scenario (DNS and SIP messages are on different networking layers).
>>>> 
>>>> As Dave mentioned below, Expressway or a LUA script (sip normalization) in 
>>>> CUCM seems to be uniquely qualified for what you’re wanting to do.
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 20:40, Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’ve seen some references to Cisco SIP proxy server. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Would that help?
>>>>> 
>>>>> -sent from mobile device-
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON | 
>>>>> N1G 2W1
>>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected]
>>>>>  
>>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 7:46 PM, Ryan Huff <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> According to RFC 2782 (https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2782.txt), it does 
>>>>>> not, under the “Target Definition”; “there must be one or more address 
>>>>>> records for this name, the name must not be an alias”.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, I can tell you that I have used a CNAME in the SRV target field 
>>>>>> before, and it appeared to work at the time. Still, depending on the 
>>>>>> application, doing so could potentially cause some weird issue with 
>>>>>> regards to PTR or something.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Oct 4, 2019, at 19:10, Brian Meade <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I don't think DNS SRV records support CNAME.  Even then, it would only 
>>>>>>> change where it was sent to and not the SIP headers.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 12:26 PM Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Yeah – I’d want this to happen all within DNS. But of course, in a 
>>>>>>>> supported fashion. I’m not interested in spending time modifying 
>>>>>>>> infrastructure at this time.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I’ve done some searching, and there’s talk of RR records, but we 
>>>>>>>> haven’t found much documentation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON 
>>>>>>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> www.uoguelph.ca/ccs | @UofGCCS on Instagram, Twitter and Facebook
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> From: Dave Goodwin <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, October 4, 2019 12:09 PM
>>>>>>>> To: Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Cc: cisco-voip voyp list <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [cisco-voip] SIP Domain substitution
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Are you wanting this to all happen within DNS instead of happening 
>>>>>>>> within a SIP UA? As far as I understand, if DNS redirected somewhere 
>>>>>>>> (SRV or CNAME record for example) it would not change the destination 
>>>>>>>> URI the originator is trying to reach. The SIP protocol has 
>>>>>>>> redirection codes (such as 301 or 302) but whether or how you might be 
>>>>>>>> able to use them depends on the SIP UAs being used.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> You might also be able to use something like a SIP normalization 
>>>>>>>> script (CUCM), SIP profiles (CUBE), or maybe search pattern 
>>>>>>>> replacements (Expressway) to just translate the domain as calls flow 
>>>>>>>> in/out. I'm guessing what might be feasible without knowing more of 
>>>>>>>> the picture.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 11:10 AM Lelio Fulgenzi <[email protected]> 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Does SIP allow for domain name substitution?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> By this I mean, instead of advertising or dialing 
>>>>>>>> [email protected] I want to use 
>>>>>>>> [email protected]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> But I don’t want to have to reorganize and reprogram anything.  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I just want the DNS to say, “hey, use this domain instead and try 
>>>>>>>> again.”
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -sent from mobile device-
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Lelio Fulgenzi, B.A. | Senior Analyst
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Computing and Communications Services | University of Guelph
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Room 037 Animal Science & Nutrition Bldg | 50 Stone Rd E | Guelph, ON 
>>>>>>>> | N1G 2W1
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 519-824-4120 Ext. 56354 | [email protected]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>> 
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