>Sometimes Cisco folks are a little too big for their britches. :->
>
>The argument presented sounds a bit like the OSI model arguments we have
>once in a while, 'eh?
>
>Let's see - core, distribution, access. 85xx & 65xx, 5xxx&4xxx, 29xx and
>35xx
Yep--of course. And that's for enterprise.
Where does core/distribution/access fit with 15900/12000/10000?
Or, for that matter, 15900/15300/1500?
Or, 8700/8800/3810?
>
>That's the way Cisco defines it, so it must be true. :->
>
>Chuck
>
>PS what was the genesis of the conversation anyway? Were specific port and
>bandwidth requirements discussed, or did someone just throw out the terms
>"core" and "access", leaving some newly indoctrinated SE to apply what he
>just learned in sales school?
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Brad
>Ellis
>Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 7:22 AM
>To: nigel samuel; Cisco Group Study
>Subject: Re: Pre-sales People
>
>The pre-sales engineer's response was:
>
>The 4000 series is not a "backbone" switch according to Cisco...
>
>-Brad
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "nigel samuel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "Brad Ellis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Cisco Group Study"
><[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2000 9:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Pre-sales People
>
>
> > That does sound strange, I did work as a pre -sales guy for a while. I
> > basically knew most customers don't want to spend lots of cash on
>equipment,
> > but it was important to think about the future growth. Of course some
> > customers were max out on their network, so tossing money at the problem
> > was necessary. Pre-sales are sometimes told to push certain equipment
> > depending on vendor discounts, incentives etc.
> >
> > In that case it does sound strange 2 -6000's to replace one 8 port switch.
> > Is it possible the 8 port switch was acting as a backbone to lot of
>servers
> > down stream? Usually the Pre-sales engineer's proposal will give a reason
> > for the recommendation. If they are think about the future you can always
> > add another later??
> >
> > Nigel
> >
> > Brad Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> > 8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:8jjsaq$rjs$[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > Hi! Does anyone else work with a pre-sales engineer that over quotes
>bids
> > > (ie: suggests 16 megs of flash for an IOS that uses only 4-5 megs of
> > space)?
> > > We have a customer that has an 8-port intel switch. This guy suggested
> > (2)
> > > Catalyst 6000s to replace this single Intel switch. Needless to say the
> > > customer was a little shocked when he saw the cost. We were replacing
>an
> > > 8-port intel switch with about 96 ports total!!!
> > >
> > > Are all pre-sales engineers like this? Im just curious. I havent done
> > much
> > > pre-sales work as I enjoy the post-sales work quite a bit more.
> > >
> > > any input is appreciated.
> > >
> > > thanks!
> > > -Brad
> > > p.s. if anyone needs a 8540MSR to replace your 25xx router, let me
>know!!!
> > > lol
> > >
> > >
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