Well, I've been up on the archives just now and searched on
"oppenheimer;survey" as well as many other combos - no luck.

Can you shed more light?

Kevin Wigle

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> Look in the archives. Princilla Oppenheimer asked cisco about whether the
> surwey affects the score and posted the answer to this list a few months
> ago. I can not explain it better than cisco did.
> regards
> Jon Eggert Gudmundsson
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> Although the idea that the survey affects the score is interesting, I too
> cannot fathom how the survey matters.
>
> You can answer the survey different for every exam.  Where is the
continuity
> there?  And explain to me the difference between a "beginning" CCIE
> Candidate and a "seasoned" CCIE Candidate.
>
> Changing your answers to the survey seems like an easy way to improve your
> odds.  How would Cisco know that your survey answers are correct?
>
> In truth, I don't think I have answered all the surveys the same as I have
> grown from the first Cisco exam over 2 years ago to completing CCDP/CCDP
> just last month.
>
> Nah, I don't think the survey means anything to us.  I do think that Cisco
> wants to know the demographics of who is taking what exams.  Unfortunately
> this would mean that Cisco is adding a little scare tactic to get you to
> answer their survey but perhaps adding a little more anxiety when you need
> it least.
>
> my .02 cents
>
> Kevin Wigle
> CCDP/CCNP...........
>
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> > On Sun, 27 Aug 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > I have to agree with Chuck on this matter. The survey IS NOT / CAN'T
BE
> an
> > > influence on your score. The cisco exams are not even "adaptive" like
> the Novell
> > > exams. The questions are pulled from a pool established by evaluating
> the beta
> > > exam results and a certain number of questions are pulled for each
> subsection of
> > > the exam. There really would be no point to making the exam difficulty
> relative to
> > > survey responses. If Cisco did that, the exams would be WORTHLESS,
> allowing you to
> > > sandbag them by answering that you are a complete novice. What is the
> CCIE written
> > > supposed to do ? Fill out the survey that you have 2 weeks experience
> and it'll
> > > give you CCNA-level questions instead of asking about obscure details
of
> token
> > > ring? The difficulty level of the exam is a constant, not a variable.
> >
> > Read the disclaimer next time you test.  It clearly states that how you
> > answer the questionairre will influence your score.  Cisco tests are not
> > adaptive, but they are weighted.  If you are a beginner, you would be
> > expected not to miss questions on fundementals......perhaps those are
> > weighted more, vs. questions that are more advanced which it may weigh
> > less for a beginner.  If you claim you are the God of networking, you
> > would probably get more weight to more advanced questions, and penalized
> > less for missing beginner questions that might be say something someone
> > more advanced may have forgotten.
> >
> > I do not know "how" they do it........I am just going by what they tell
> > you when you test, and this is for the professional tests not just the
> > CCIE tests........they clearly state that "how you answer this
> > questionairre will influence how your test is scored"............doesn't
> > seem to vaugue to me.......
> >
> > Brian
> >
>
>
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