Did he know how to collect information from cisco website?
If he did not know how to did it, I just wonder.
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> some of the certs are like getting a "paper diploma" (which is what I
got...
> heheheh) So, if they are going to take the risk and study for the cert on
> the hopes that they can get a job using the cert as leverage, more power
to
> them!
>
> By virtue of the testing mechanism, the CCNA/CCNP/CCDA/CCDP will be
> attainable by studying. I work with one now, who has both a CCNP and
CCDP,
> but couldn't reload an erased flash on a 2600 series router... go figure.
I
> was very tempted to ask, "What are those certs really for?", but I just
> smiled and helped him reload the flash from a tftp server using rommon.
(By
> the way, the variables in rommon on a 2600 are case sensitive :-)
>
> When I first started working in industry after earning my degree, my boss
> put me together with a technician who had no degree, but tons of
experience.
> The tech rolled his eyes when he met me and said, "Great...I gotta train
> ANOTHER engineer". What he didn't count on was that I'd learn how to do
his
> job, not to his skill level (he had 10+ years in the industry), but good
> enough so that he'd trust me to do the work if he wasn't around. I kind
of
> feel like him, now... a non-certified "packet jockey" that has to train
> these certified, "paper trained", network "engineers".
>
> I interviewed a guy the other day and asked him, "Why do you want to get
> Cisco certified?". He said, because he wanted to be a network engineer
and
> learn how to read/interpret Cisco configurations. When I asked him "Why
do
> you want to be a network engineer?", his reason was pretty weak (but I'd
> guess he'd have said "the money" if I pressed him).
>
> The havoc I could wreak on these guys with policy routing, access-groups,
> NAT, and route maps... heheheheh...<evil grin>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mike Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2001 3:51 PM
> Subject: Cisco Certs Becoming Paper CCXX
>
>
> > I will probably get yelled at for this one but...
> >
> > I am a CCNA, CCDA, CCNP, and yes going after the CCIE.
> > So up front I am not against certs.
> >
> > I am becoming aware of more and more people becoming
> > Cisco certified and not know enough to go and actually
> > do the work. Our company has and is interviewing for
> > network folks, I have the opportunity to interview
> > these people to verify technical experience. I have
> > had CCNA, CCNP, and yes even CCIE written folks who
> > could not tell me what they 'should' acutally know.
> >
> >
> > This scares me because I am also working hard toward
> > my certs and the CCIE. But it has been proven and is
> > showing up more that these people are becoming "paper"
> > Cisco folks, as in the paper MCSE.
> >
> > I know and hope the CCIE LAB and title will remain as
> > difficult if not more so in the future. I for one do
> > not want to spend a year of my life gaining the CCIE
> > title to be one among thousands who also have it.
> >
> > That is my insite and hope Cisco will
> > try to make it more difficult to obtain the CCNP/DP
> > and not become another MCSE program.
> >
> >
> >
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