Geeze,
I have only been without a job 2 weeks and I have been doing independent
contract work like crazy during that time.  It takes time to interview for
jobs, especially in my pay range.  Company's don't just look at your number
and hire you on the spot,  At least not any company I want to work for.

To answer Elmers question: Yes, the market is very different now.
Especially in the VAR area.  Small VARs are struggling to make 2 or 3 points
on hardware sales.  "Grey" market hardware from auctions and bankruptcies is
everywhere.  Large resellers like ATT and SBC (sorry Chuck) are drop
shipping at cost, it seems, just to make a little margin on deployment.

Another factor that seems to be affecting CCIE employment around the bay
area is the layoff at Cisco.  Believe it or not, Cisco laid off quit a few
of them recently, and they are all looking for jobs.  I recently interviewed
at a job where they specifically want a CCIE and they had 10 interviews...
10 !!!!  That was unheard of a year ago!!   Maybe it's just like this in the
Silicon Valley, I don't know.  All I know is the market is very soft right
now around here.  I know I'll find a job though.  I just can't be picky.

So is the CCIE market saturated ?  I don't know, maybe.  Does the high tech
economy suck right now ?  Hell yes !!  However, ebb and flow is the way
capitalism works.  Things are certain to get better.

So you who are going for your high end certs, keep studying !!  You will be
in a better position when things get better.

Tony M.
#6172


----- Original Message -----
From: Circusnuts 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:13 AM
Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]


> Uh Ohhh- let's not start a rant here... "CCIE's out of work, is it worth
> it."
>
> :o)
> Phil
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Elmer Deloso"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:24 AM
> Subject: RE: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
>
>
> > Tony,
> > Seriously speaking, i thought at this point you'd be the hunted and not
> the
> > hunter when it comes to jobs. Or has teh CCIE market become "saturated"?
> >
> > Elmer
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:30 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> >
> >
> > Boy,
> > That CCIE verification tool is buggy.  I put my name in 4 times before
It
> > verified me.  Tried different capitalization methods untill it finially
> > worked.  Then it worked on all capitalization methods !!!  Go figure
> >
> > I'm looking for a job right now and I hope that a prospective employeer
> > doesn't use this thing !!
> >
> > Tony Medeiros
> > CCIE #6172 (damnit !!!!)




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