Try anywhere but SF. I am pulling in almost 2 bills an hour consulting on
the east coast. I beat out a CCIE for the spot at a major power utility
because I knew protocols, applications, and many other technologies. I also
provided my own protocol analyzers and will train their staff in advance
Cisco design, troubleshooting and forensic protocol analysis while working
on and improving the existing enterprise network. I am not knocking the
CCIE, I find it very challenging, my first lab is in March 02. I passed the
written in March 01 but then this gig fell in my lap so I pushed off the
lab. Billing always comes first. My point is that the market is tight but
not as tight one may think. With the influx of talent real or fake(those who
jumped in on the bandwagon during the last couple of years) clients can now
afford to be very picky so they want someone who also understands things
outside the proverbial "Cisco" box. If you have many talents and are strong
in them all, you will find something soon. Try an out of state contract I
turned down a government spot in NC for the utility spot so there are gigs
out there. Good luck to all.

/JS
CCNP, CCDP, CNX,
Oracle Master, CNE, PMG NetAnalyst, EIEIO
 17 years of experience.

""Tony Medeiros""  wrote in message
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> Geeze,
> I have only been without a job 2 weeks and I have been doing independent
> contract work like crazy during that time.  It takes time to interview for
> jobs, especially in my pay range.  Company's don't just look at your
number
> and hire you on the spot,  At least not any company I want to work for.
>
> To answer Elmers question: Yes, the market is very different now.
> Especially in the VAR area.  Small VARs are struggling to make 2 or 3
points
> on hardware sales.  "Grey" market hardware from auctions and bankruptcies
is
> everywhere.  Large resellers like ATT and SBC (sorry Chuck) are drop
> shipping at cost, it seems, just to make a little margin on deployment.
>
> Another factor that seems to be affecting CCIE employment around the bay
> area is the layoff at Cisco.  Believe it or not, Cisco laid off quit a few
> of them recently, and they are all looking for jobs.  I recently
interviewed
> at a job where they specifically want a CCIE and they had 10 interviews...
> 10 !!!!  That was unheard of a year ago!!   Maybe it's just like this in
the
> Silicon Valley, I don't know.  All I know is the market is very soft right
> now around here.  I know I'll find a job though.  I just can't be picky.
>
> So is the CCIE market saturated ?  I don't know, maybe.  Does the high
tech
> economy suck right now ?  Hell yes !!  However, ebb and flow is the way
> capitalism works.  Things are certain to get better.
>
> So you who are going for your high end certs, keep studying !!  You will
be
> in a better position when things get better.
>
> Tony M.
> #6172
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Circusnuts
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:13 AM
> Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
>
>
> > Uh Ohhh- let's not start a rant here... "CCIE's out of work, is it worth
> > it."
> >
> > :o)
> > Phil
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Elmer Deloso"
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:24 AM
> > Subject: RE: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> >
> >
> > > Tony,
> > > Seriously speaking, i thought at this point you'd be the hunted and
not
> > the
> > > hunter when it comes to jobs. Or has teh CCIE market become
"saturated"?
> > >
> > > Elmer
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Tony Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:30 AM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> > >
> > >
> > > Boy,
> > > That CCIE verification tool is buggy.  I put my name in 4 times before
> It
> > > verified me.  Tried different capitalization methods untill it
finially
> > > worked.  Then it worked on all capitalization methods !!!  Go figure
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a job right now and I hope that a prospective
employeer
> > > doesn't use this thing !!
> > >
> > > Tony Medeiros
> > > CCIE #6172 (damnit !!!!)




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