You got it here in good old blighty (England - not new) Telcos and there
ex-employees are a bit like Saddam Hussein, without the benefits. If you
can cross train quick (Nortel NNCSS and NNCDS) or get an MCSE 2000 then you
are more likely to work.
I beginning to wonder whether something should be done inside the list
(especially for USA members who I think will be hurt the worst) to help here
as I strongly suspect we are in for a longish downturn!
Sorry Paul just thinking aloud.
Karl
----- Original Message -----
From: "Kelly D Griffin"
To:
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> I, too, lost my full time gig last week and I am finding it very hard to
> find another position for similar pay. It seems as though this round of
> layoffs is like the one in the 80's. They are laying off and then hiring
> later for a lot less pay.
>
> Anyone else see this?
>
> Kelly D Griffin, CCNA, CCDA
> Network Engineer
> Kg2 Network Design
> 877.418.4025
> http://www.kg2.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Tony Medeiros"
> To:
> Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:32 PM
> Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
>
>
> > Geeze,
> > I have only been without a job 2 weeks and I have been doing independent
> > contract work like crazy during that time. It takes time to interview
for
> > jobs, especially in my pay range. Company's don't just look at your
> number
> > and hire you on the spot, At least not any company I want to work for.
> >
> > To answer Elmers question: Yes, the market is very different now.
> > Especially in the VAR area. Small VARs are struggling to make 2 or 3
> points
> > on hardware sales. "Grey" market hardware from auctions and
bankruptcies
> is
> > everywhere. Large resellers like ATT and SBC (sorry Chuck) are drop
> > shipping at cost, it seems, just to make a little margin on deployment.
> >
> > Another factor that seems to be affecting CCIE employment around the bay
> > area is the layoff at Cisco. Believe it or not, Cisco laid off quit a
few
> > of them recently, and they are all looking for jobs. I recently
> interviewed
> > at a job where they specifically want a CCIE and they had 10
interviews...
> > 10 !!!! That was unheard of a year ago!! Maybe it's just like this in
> the
> > Silicon Valley, I don't know. All I know is the market is very soft
right
> > now around here. I know I'll find a job though. I just can't be picky.
> >
> > So is the CCIE market saturated ? I don't know, maybe. Does the high
> tech
> > economy suck right now ? Hell yes !! However, ebb and flow is the way
> > capitalism works. Things are certain to get better.
> >
> > So you who are going for your high end certs, keep studying !! You will
> be
> > in a better position when things get better.
> >
> > Tony M.
> > #6172
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Circusnuts
> > To:
> > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 7:13 AM
> > Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> >
> >
> > > Uh Ohhh- let's not start a rant here... "CCIE's out of work, is it
worth
> > > it."
> > >
> > > :o)
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Elmer Deloso"
> > > To:
> > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:24 AM
> > > Subject: RE: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> > >
> > >
> > > > Tony,
> > > > Seriously speaking, i thought at this point you'd be the hunted and
> not
> > > the
> > > > hunter when it comes to jobs. Or has teh CCIE market become
> "saturated"?
> > > >
> > > > Elmer
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Tony Medeiros [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:30 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: FYI Check out the CCIE "whats new" page. [7:11128]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Boy,
> > > > That CCIE verification tool is buggy. I put my name in 4 times
before
> > It
> > > > verified me. Tried different capitalization methods untill it
> finially
> > > > worked. Then it worked on all capitalization methods !!! Go figure
> > > >
> > > > I'm looking for a job right now and I hope that a prospective
> employeer
> > > > doesn't use this thing !!
> > > >
> > > > Tony Medeiros
> > > > CCIE #6172 (damnit !!!!)
> > _______________________________________________
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