John, I've been following your thread and think I found a possible answer
to your question on why the neighbor statement gets ignored when entered
on spoke routers!

In the OSPF Desig Guide "Section 1" under "Adjacencies on Non-Broadcast
Multi-Access (NBMA) Networks" the next to last statement in the paragraph
gives us a clue.

"The neighbor command applies to routers with a potential of being DRs or
BDRs
(interface priority not equal to 0)."

So to test that theory, I changed the priority on one of my spokes to 1
from 0 and viola, it takes the neighbor statement just fine. Prior to
changing the interface priority I could enter the neighbor statement under
the OSPF process, but it didn't show up in the config.

Spoke Router:

interface Serial0
 ip address 192.1.1.1 255.255.255.0
 no ip directed-broadcast
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 logging event subif-link-status
 logging event dlci-status-change
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.2 100 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.3 100 broadcast
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
router ospf 64
 network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 neighbor 192.1.1.2

Hub Router:

interface Serial0
 ip address 192.1.1.2 255.255.255.0
 encapsulation frame-relay IETF
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.1 100 broadcast
 frame-relay map ip 192.1.1.3 200 broadcast
 frame-relay lmi-type ansi
!
router ospf 64
 log-adjacency-changes
 network 2.2.2.2 0.0.0.0 area 0
 network 192.1.1.0 0.0.0.255 area 0
 neighbor 192.1.1.3
 neighbor 192.1.1.1 priority 1  I thought you only need the neighbor
statement on one side of
the
> connection?
>
> Once a router accepts the hello, adjacencies are formed with
information
> from the hello via unicast communication from that point
forward.
>
> Sort of like if I shout over a hill, "Hey Routerman are you
there, this
> is
> Jim." Then you would respond back to me by name.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Router Man [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2002 10:28 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: OSPF and The Disappearing Neighbor Statement
[7:31656]
>
>
> I was able to reproduce your exact scenario.  I had a hub
with two
> spokes
> and the neighbor statements only appeared on the hub. This is
very
> interesting and I'm not sure what the reason behind it is.  I
am glad
> that
> this was brought up, because I would love to get to the
bottom of this
> situation.  I'll keep you posted ""John Neiberger""  wrote in
message
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > The network statement definitely was there, but the
neighbor
> > statements would only appear on the hub router.
Interestingly, I just
>
> > saw a sample configuration similar to this on CCO and they
only had
> > the neighbor statement on one router, not both.  I think as
long as
> > one router has a neighbor statement configured, the
adjacency will
> > form assuming all other things being equal (network type,
etc.)
> >
> > The adjacencies formed but I had to cycle the interfaces to
get things
> > started.   Even if the neighbor statement is only required
on one
> side,
> > I still don't understand why the router wouldn't let me add
it.  The
> > adjacencies would eventually form, however, and routing
occurred
> > exactly as I expected it.
> >
> > I did notice a minor issue with the neighbor statements on
the hub.  I
>
> > had three of them, and one of them inserted 'priority 1' at
the end,
> > yet the other two remained as I entered them.
> >
> > >>> "Router Man"  1/11/02 3:08:03 PM >>>
> > The only time that the "neighbor" statement will not show
up in the
> > running-config, is if you do not have a "network" statement
under the
> > "router ospf" process.  I am doubting that the neighbors
formed an
> > adjacency without the neigbor or network statements showing
up under
> > the ospf config.
> > If the adjacency was actually formed, then it must be a bug.
> >
> > Another thing that I have noticed is than when trying to
use the
> > neighbor statement to set the priority, "neighbor 1.1.1.1
priority
> > 255" the priority
> > will change to something other than what I set it too.  It
took me a
> > while
> > to figure this one out.   The problem is that I have to
have matching
> > "ip
> > ospf priority 255" statements under the interfaces running
ospf .
> > ""John Neiberger""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > It was hot, too hot.  Our detective had been working
feverishly to
> > > configure OSPF over NBMA without the use of ip ospf
network
> > statements.
> > > He knew that to do this he must explicitly add neighbor
statements
> > or
> > > adjacencies would not form.
> > >
> > > He logs into the hub router and types in his three
neighbor
> > statements.
> > >  All seems well.  It's still too hot, but it's a dry heat.
> > >
> > > He now logs into one of the spoke routers and types in
his neighbor
> > > statement.  He pauses momentarily and then checks the OSPF
> > adjacencies.
> > > Something seems to be wrong, he thinks to himself.  This
ought to be
>
> > > working, but it isn't.  Why not?  He looks through the
running
> > > config
> > to
> > > look for any errors and notices the the neighbor
statement that he
> > just
> > > entered is missing!
> > >
> > > He slowly and deliberately types it in again making sure
there are
> > no
> > > mistakes but yet it still does not show up in the running
> > configuration.
> > >  Is this an IOS issue?  Operator error?  Some rift in the
space-time
>
> > > continuum?
> > >
> > > He jumps to another spoke router running a different IOS
and tries
> > the
> > > same thing with the same result.  He is frantic now,
beads of sweat
> > > pouring down his face.  What if this were the real CCIE
lab exam?
> > Could
> > > this be a fatal stumbling block?
> > >
> > > He finally notices that adjacencies do eventually form
after
> > clearing
> > > the relevant interfaces.  This must be because the hub
router
> > accepted
> > > the neighbor statements.  But what if it hadn't, he
ponders.  He
> > thinks
> > > forward into the future when--a day after taking the lab
exam--he
> > > receives the dreaded email that says, "We're sorry, it is
apparent
> > that
> > > you have no clue."
> > >
> > > Back to the real world....
> > >
> > > What was the cause of the missing neighbor statements?
Have any of
> > you
> > > run into this before?  I've never bothered to explicitly
use
> > neighbor
> > > statements as I'm in the habit of using the ip ospf
network command
> > to
> > > make them unnecessary.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > John
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