Marshal, I totally agree, I dont think it's impossible for a candidate to pass without real-world hands-on experience. IMHO the program is actually quite a bit harder now, than it was a couple years ago. The program DID start as a way to test for hands-on experience, but the program has gone a different direction in the past couple years.
There's such a wide/diverse and focused consulting/implementation field, I think it would be extremely difficult to focus on testing "hands-on." There would have to be 30+ different CCIE specialization programs (with a much larger variety of hardware/software differences used for each specialization as well). It would be an administrative nightmare for Cisco to administer such a program. -Brad Ellis CCIE#5796 (R&S / Security) Network Learning Inc [EMAIL PROTECTED] used Cisco gear: www.optsys.net CCIE Labs, racks, and classes: http://www.ccbootcamp.com/quicklinks.html ""Marshal Schoener"" wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... > I disagree. > There is not a Cisco test, nor any technical test for that matter that a > person can't pass with a whole lot of studying and some lab time. > > Yes the CCIE lab is extremely difficult. But to say it's impossible to pass > without 'real world' experience is just wrong. > > Regards, > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 6:09 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] > > > Is there such > "D CCIE with no experience" > I highly doubt that ladies and gents, The whole point of a CCIE Lab is to > prove the experience you have gained in the field and how you go about > building and troubleshooting a network. > Friends of mine that are good engineers with extensive experience failed > the exam first time. > The amount of time you get in the lab exam gives you no time to refer back > to the documentation cd or to even think to hard!, you have to know exactly > what to do and how to do it and you have to do as fast as you possibly > can. > Anyone that has attempted the lab knows how draining it is both physically > and especially mentally. It is not easy! > For those of us attempting the lab and for those that have already achieved > there numbers we know we cannot do it without hands on and a good > troubleshooting base. > Good Luck > > -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 9:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] > > > Man that's an insult. A CCIE with no experience. I guess I will go back > to building race cars. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joe Carr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:27 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] > > > what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work experience. Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=34325&t=33899 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
