Well, more power to you!!! As far as what you should expect....
An entry level NOC position.... If you go in with the attitude that you should be at a Senior Level because of the IE, then you will be one of the ones crying about how theres no jobs available... Which ever way you go, I doubt your CCIE will have any more leverage than your CCNP will... Something that might be a good move for you is a latteral move within your ISP. in the AS support or something.... But it sounds like you are the person the average user calls when they cant get the little E thing on their desktop to do anything.... If thats your position, get out and move... If you support the companies about their T1, then your in a good starting place... Best of luck, everyone has to start, but Im afraid the CCIE at this stage may hurt you... Heres what I mean.... You are qualified for entry level... Your Certifications say you are over qualified.... Your work experience says your under qualified for your certs... What does an employer do? If they have delt with a CCIE before, they probobly wont consider you because they dont have the confidence in you to control their multi million dollar network.... On the otherside... Your certifications would get you overlooked for the positions you would excel at quickly and allow you to get the experience, because they dont think you would accept any offer for a lower position... So your resume gets dumped.... Some important things to consider..... I would not consider your resume if it had all of that, and all within one year... My first instinct would be BRAIN DUMPS... CHEET SHEETS.... TRANSCENDERS...., and I would throw your resume away.... Now someone with CCNA, maybe CCNP, but not too much, would get my attention for a good paying entry to mid level position.... CCIE is upper level position.... Cant put you in charge of my team of engineers with experience levels ranging from 2-10 years when you have 0-1.... No one would folllow you. It would not be a good team anymore.... These are things beyond the technical aspect that management must face. Just think about it.. Im not trying to keep you from succeding, just trying to keep you from hurting yourself... Its like the small company that saves up their money for a Super Bowl Ad... They get 3 million responses and their 2 man company cant handle it.... WHat happens to them? They run themselves out of business... too much too fast... ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Neiberger" To: Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 4:31 PM Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] > To go through those certs that quickly is very impressive! If you pass > the lab, I still think you will get a lot of funny looks when you say > you have no work experience, yet you are a CCIE. As long as you're > prepared for that, it's up to you to sell yourself. It will be tough > but I think if you can show that you really know your stuff, you should > be able to find a pretty good job. > > However, I wouldn't count on a huge salary right at the begging simply > because of the certifications. > > Good luck! > John > > >>> "Joe Carr" 1/31/02 12:33:02 PM >>> > I'm going for my CCIE now and I have completed the CCNA,CCDA,CCNP,CCIE > written all within the last five months. I currently work for an ISP in > tech > support (help desk) and I do not not have NOC experience. I have a > very > impressive lab and plan to boe done with the CCIE lab in about four > months. > am just wondering what I should expect out there, I just turrend 21 so > I > still pritty young yet but I have gotten all of these certs plus an > MCDBA > and A+ in less then a year. > > Joe Carr > A+, MCDBA, CCNA, CCDA, CCNP > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Neiberger" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, January 31, 2002 12:47 PM > Subject: Re: CCIE starting pay [7:33899] > > > > I'd be surprised if you could find a CCIE with no work experience. > Even > > if you could, they wouldn't be worth that much, IMHO. Assuming I > pass > > in April, I'll have just over three years experience and a CCIE > > certification. What does that mean? > > > > Well, it means that if I leave my current job to look for work > > elsewhere, I'll be going up against CCIEs with 5-7+ years experience > > plus degrees. Someone with only three years experience still isn't > > going to be the most marketable person around. > > > > If you somehow managed to get CCIE and have no work experience at > all, > > I wouldn't expect a starting salary higher than a CCNA. > > > > John > > > > >>> "Joe Carr" 1/31/02 11:26:39 AM >>> > > what would be the average starting pay for CCIE with no work > > experience. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=33990&t=33899 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
