there are some positions at Bank one in Illinois and ohio..
if your interested..

Larry Letterman
Cisco Systems
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
Marc Maxwell
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 9:45 PM
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ONe would hope that would be factored in.  The high cost of living here,
still doesn't automatically raise salaries I am afraid.  The bootcamps
eventually lower everyone's salary since they are churning out armies of
'qualified' people, that look somewhat the same on paper to many recruiters.

At the moment there seem to be NO jobs for networking in the SF Bay area.  I
have 5+ years experience, consulting exp, network design, security, etc.   I
am currently teaching a Cisco class as well.  Although I have made a lot
more when the economy was better, I would LOVE to interview for a 50k job at
the moment!

Desperately yours,

Marc Maxwell
CCNA/MCSE/A+



>From: "Steven A. Ridder"
>Reply-To: "Steven A. Ridder"
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
>Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 18:37:34 -0500
>
>In MA we have a high cost of living, so maybe that explains it.
>""Larry Letterman""  wrote in message
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> > I would have to assume that your ccna candidates
> > are paid well then..Most places in the midwest
> > pay ccnp people about 60K or so...as far as training
> > I have not been seeing many people in the last few
> > classes I have attended.
> >
> > Larry Letterman
> > Cisco Systems
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
> > Steven A. Ridder
> > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 1:35 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
> >
> >
> > Well in the good old days of the economy, I made more than that even
>before
> > becoming a CCNA.  I would never settle for 50k, even in this econ.,
> > especially as a CCIE.  Plus, a CCIE IMO should already have exp., and
>lots
> > of it.  Otherwise it defeats the purpose of becoming a CCIE - cisco
> > certified internet EXPERT!
> >
> > --
> > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> >
> > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > A CCNA with little or no experience? Hardly. He's lucky to even land a
>job
> > > right now. I think this intern program is aimed at people new to the
> > field.
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Steven A. Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 12:50 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
> > >
> > >
> > > A CCNA makes more than 50k.  And you wouldn't have to pay your company
>to
> > > work for them and get training.  Most companies pay you and pay for
>your
> > > training.
> > >
> > > --
> > > RFC 1149 Compliant.
> > >
> > > ""Sean Knox""  wrote in message
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]...
> > > > I've taken some classes at ICTP. From what I gather, their CCIE
>intern
> > > > program works like this: you sign up for their CCIE program (which
>is
> > not
> > > > cheap I should add) and when you pass your CCIE written/lab (I
>vaguely
> > > > remember that the CCIE written pass is all you need), you can work
>as
>a
> > > > subcontractor for ICTP. You make substantially   less money than a
>CCIE
> > is
> > > > "worth", (I believe around $50,000, don't quote me on that) but for
> > those
> > > > with little or no experience (i.e., people enrolling in this
>program),
> > it
> > > > works out really well. Hopefully Mr. Lee could explain the program
>more
> > in
> > > > detail.
> > > >
> > > > - Sean
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2002 11:34 AM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Perhaps its a new look on recruiting, they train u, get a slice of
>the
> > > > dough for awhile??  Just speculating of course..
> > > >
> > > > Brian
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, 21 Feb 2002, Cisco Nuts wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > And upon finishing the program, how many years of slavery will we
> > > > > unfortunate ones be indebted to your gracious company? :-)
> > > > > Can you clarify this??
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >From: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >Reply-To: "Jason Lee"
> > > > > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > >Subject: CISCO INTERNSHIP.....CCIE..... [7:36091]
> > > > > >Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2002 13:40:20 -0500
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > >My name is Jason Lee I currently work for ICTP located in anaheim
> > > > > >california
> > > > > >we are currently looking for few candidates to go through our
>very
> > > > intense
> > > > > >cisco training, also to note that upon finishing the program CEA
> > (cisco
> > > > > >expert academy)you can be eligible for an internship... we have
> > > > information
> > > > > >session going on every other friday, so if this sounds
>interesting
>to
> > > > you,
> > > > > >or if you need a lab to study for the ccie or ccnp please give me
>a
> > > call.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Jason Lee
> > > > > >IT specialist
> > > > > >714-783-1083
> > > > > >www.ICTP.com
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