With respect, I would argue that Cisco wants to sell products and that the certifications are a way to add credibality to them as a vendor.
I do agree that one may come across old equipment in their travels, and perhaps I am fortunate to work with newer things, but I have to question the conflicts that exist between marketing, best practices and the certifications. My clients now expect solutions that allow for VOIP, mcast, streaming content and high bandwidth. Can I really champion the 1604 router when the 2651 is not that much more and allows for those needs (of course, if they aren't asking for those services its a balancing act). I'm never going to recommend the 766 router, for example, however. ;) --- Tshon wrote: > I think that what your missing is that. Cisco is > trying to one prepare > you for anything that > is out there, equipment that happens to be at end of > life doesn't > gaurantee that you > won't see it out there. They are trying to make > sure that you are > prepared to represent > their company. Secondly if you don't have any > understanding about the > equipment > and you run into it, what's your suggestion.... just > replace it, it > might work perfectly well, but we'll > replace it because you aren't familiar!!!! The test > and the labs as > John knows are not > if he's taken the CCIE lab, are not hard they are > over lots of > technology that has been around. > the same old situations exist with new ones. And > you need to be > prepared for it all, in the > end you need to be prepared to use your resources > and understand > quickly. A company > might be losing or wasting money because of you. > So, why whine the test > shows you > what you didn't know that is what a test does. Go > back and bone up, > then you'll > pass. > > Tshon > > John Neiberger wrote: > > >If Cisco is asking questions about products that > have been > >EOLed then they need to get some new test authors. > :-) I just > >don't understand the difficulty in creating a > decent test. > > > >Here's a suggestion for Cisco: > > > >Follow this list and the CCIE list for a week. > Compile a list > >of the top 30 posters, with special considerations > for the > >people who tend to answer most often. From that > list, randomly > >pick ten, then pay them to write 30 test questions > each. > > > >I promise you that the end result would be 300 > questions that > >are higher quality than a majority of the questions > Cisco has > >on their current exams. Repeat this process for > each new exam > >needed. > > > >Now _that_ would be a killer beta test! > > > >Regards, > >John > > > >---- On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Robert Padjen > >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > >>Greetings all - > >> > >>I have a discussion point that I am curious to get > >>feedback on from the group. I recently took > another > >>Cisco certification exam (beta) and was amazed at > the > >>questions. > >> > >>For example, at least four questions regarded > products > >>that no longer exist - Cisco end-of-lifed them > some > >>time ago. Other questions included choices that > don't > >> > > > >>exist - at least I am unaware of a (sic) series > router > >>for serial connections (it was a switch that does > not > >>have a WIC slot). Still more questions had no > >>reasonable way to answer them without having > >>previously read or learned specific Cisco > materials. > >> > >>My observation is that this is bad for us as > >>certification holders. And, since we pay for the > tests > >>and represent to our employers that they represent > a > >>certain level of professionalism, I think I have a > >>real issue. The issues are not complaints > regarding > >>poor writing or syntax on the exam, although I am > >>concerned about this for non-native English > speakers > >>taking the English exam. Rather, I am concerned > that > >>the test is outdated even when its in beta. This > is > >>not the first test (production or beta) that I > have > >>noted this with. I still haven't seen tests on > MPLS, > >>VPN, 4224 switches, IMA, etc., yet this would seem > to > >>be relevant on the CCNP/DP exams. > >> > >>Please share your thoughts. > >> > >>BTW - If this is considered an OT item please > >>disregard. It is my hope to gain some > understanding > >>and then address the issue with Cisco if there is > >>agreement that there is an issue. As the content > of > >>the tests is of concern to all of us I hope that > the > >>potential benefits are valued. > >> > >>===== > >>Robert Padjen > >> > >>__________________________________________________ > >>Do You Yahoo!? > >>Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free > email! > >>http://mail.yahoo.com/ > >> > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] ===== Robert Padjen __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/ Message Posted at: http://www.groupstudy.com/form/read.php?f=7&i=38142&t=38063 -------------------------------------------------- FAQ, list archives, and subscription info: http://www.groupstudy.com/list/cisco.html Report misconduct and Nondisclosure violations to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
