At 3:21 PM -0400 6/25/02, Stephen Manuel wrote:
>Tom,
>
>I'm not speaking jest, I have used netstumbler to find wireless networks
>that are wide open, some
>are in major companies.
>
>However, I turn off my client manager before I go wardriving, that way I
>don't accidentially connect
>to someone's network without authorization. I can't see how this is
>considered hacking.

In general, the US Communications Act of 1934, as amended, makes 
illegal the disclosure to a third party of any electromagnetic 
traffic you have received, assuming the transmission is not intended 
for the public.  Obviously, it gets a little blurry when you are 
disclosing the communication to its originator, but I still would be 
very careful here.

>
>When I initially approached the 3 companies I mentioned earlier, I had a
>developed a 3-page document
>on the ease of implementation of wireless networks and the inherit security
>risks associated with wireless networks. I
>didn't mention to any of the 3 that I had already detected their networks
>and how wide open they really were.
>
>I am toying with the idea of sending specific information to them about
>their wireless networks, like the MAC address of the AP, the SSID, the
>network name, the exact location on a map of the AP, the manufacturer of the
>AP,  if WEP is turned on, plus if I really want to get serious I could tell
>them if the AP is issuing IP addresses via DHCP and their network settings
>if it is.

I could see this part, fairly easily, as something an aggressive 
member of law enforcement considering a violation.  The law is less 
than ideally clear here. People certainly have sued successfully for 
invasion of privacy when someone gets on a ladder and photographs 
over a fence, but the courts have also stated that the role of 
"celebrity" waives some parts of an expectation of privacy.

Nevertheless, I wouldn't even think of doing this without getting 
legal advice, and also possibly discussing it first with local law 
enforcement (including the nearest FBI office with a technical group).

>
>The question I have is, would the company be happy to know that they have
>security holes and were alerted to it, would they threaten me by calling law
>enforcement, or would they ignore me as a nut or go and fix the problem
>without hiring me to do it for them.

It's a tossup.  In the present concern over both surveillance and 
terrorism, I wouldn't want to deal with explaining it to less than 
technically significant law enforcement.

>
>I was simply amazed at the shear number of AP's out there and how many were
>in businesses wide open.
>
>Stephen Manuel




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