It would help if you quoted msg's in your responses btw :)

The ISP essentials book does not indicate that the interfaces would be 
pingable, simply that ISP's can generally tolerate the LAN side of a 
customer prem router changing state without an alarm being triggered due to 
the in between serial interfaces loss of ip reachability.

At 04:26 PM 7/21/2002 +0000, Peter van Oene wrote:
>These statements do not seem to conflict.
>
>At 03:25 PM 7/21/2002 +0000, you wrote:
> >Priscilla,
> >
> >  Do you remember the discussion about IP unnumbered ? Sure you do. You
>wrote
> >"Now, network management is a concern, however. If your serial interface
is
> >unnumbered, you can't ping it or send it SNMP messages. With those
> >functions, the serial port acts as an end host and must have a
network-layer
> >address. That's the tradeoff".
> >
> >I have found in Cisco ISP essentials book, the following: "Many ISPs use
> >monitoring systems that use ping to check the status of the leased line.
> >Even if the customer unplugs the LAN, an alarm will not be raised on the
> >ISPs management system. This is because the customer  router still knows
> >that the LAN IP address is configured on the system and is "useable" ".
> >(page 46)
> >
> >Regards.




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