Priscilla Oppenheimer wrote:
> 
> Don't believe everything you read. ;-) This statement from the
> Cisco document is not believable:
> 
> "Pings to your own interface address are successful on
> point-to-point subinterfaces or high-level data link control
> (HDLC) links because the router on the other side of the link
> returns the ICMP echo and echo reply packets. The same
> principle applies with multipoint (sub)interfaces. To
> successfully ping your own interface address, another router
> must send back the ICMP echoes and the echo replies."

Agreed - don't believe everything you read.  I came to accept this out of
the possibly false memory that someone I respected had explained why it
really was true.  In any case, I had two more thoughts on the journey home
tonight.  The distant-end router may not report any ICMP debug because it is
simply routing packets - it isn't "participating" in that particular ICMP
process.  My other though, which is probably a much better one, is that a
poor man's protocol analyzer could probably come pretty close to settling
the issue.  If I had a lab, which I don't at this exact moment (need to work
on that in the next few days), I'd build an access list on the far-end
router to block any traffic from that ethernet interface and see what
happens.  I might look at the idiot lights too.  Although, neither of these
are as 100% fool-proof as that WAN protocol analyzer.

And now that you mention it...I have seen some pretty wild EIGRP white
papers in the past.  OSPF too.

Scott

> 
> I think they are trying to address the issue of not being able
> to ping yourself on Frame Relay. That is fixable by including a
> map statement. This shouldn't imply that the packets actually
> cross the serial link though, even though that's what they are
> saying. And to claim that the echos (not just the echo replies)
> get sent back is really not believable.
> 
> On the other hand, sometimes things that aren't believable turn
> out to be true in the Cisco world. But this one really smacks
> of a being written by someone who is slightly clueless.
> 
> Hey, ask Chuck about that weird EIGRP paper that comes up every
> so often. It's even more unbelievable than this one. ;-)
> 
> Priscilla
> 



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