Marty,

And I forgot to ask below, any thoughts as to whether or not the echo
*replies* are somehow bounced off of the distant-end router too?  That is
what I found the most difficult to accept and was stretching for a theory
that might possibly explain it.

Thanks again,

Scott

s vermill wrote:
> 
> Marty Adkins wrote:
> > > 
> > I'm not totally sure what you mean by "from a local ethernet
> > interface".
> > If you mean that the router forwarded a packet that arrived on
> > its
> > Ethernet interface, and the destination was its serial IP,
> then
> > the
> > packet will definitely *not* leave the router.
> 
> As you surmised, this was sourced from the ethernet interface
> using an extended ping - it did not arrive there from somewhere
> else.
> 
> > 
> > OTOH, if the router itself is the source of the packet, and it
> > pings
> > its own serial IP, and the outbound interface and layer 2
> encap
> > are
> > resolved and unambiguous, then the router will launch the
> packet
> > out that p2p interface or PVC.  I have done exactly what
> > Priscilla
> > describes, and not only seen the output from "debug ip icmp"
> on
> > the
> > neighbor router, but also observed it generating ICMP
> > redirects, since
> > the packet was forwarded out the interface it arrived on!
> 
> I too have done what Priscilla tried and did not see the debug
> output.
> 
> > 
> > This Cisco aberation is extremely useful for troubleshooting
> > p2p WAN
> > links.  When the path has been looped (line protocol up
> > (looped)), the
> > only IP that is pingable is the directly connected one.  That
> > the router
> > actually sends the packet makes it possible to test the link
> > with ping.
> 
> That, sir, is an excellent thing to remember.  I never thought
> about it, but it sure is useful.  Many thanks.
> 
> > 
> > Now I wasn't performing an extended ping and sourcing the ping
> > from a
> > different interface.  Maybe that's the difference?  I last did
> > this
> > with IOS 12.0(7)T.
> > 
> > Priscilla, I'm not saying what you observed is wrong!  I don't
> > have
> > access at the moment to replicate it, but I'm positive of what
> > I saw --
> > I had my students do it in class numerous times.
> > 
> > - Marty
> > 
> > 
> 
> 




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