David Kilpatrick wrote:

..
 > OK, maybe they didn't sit in the pub playing Planxty Irwin,
..

They might have sat in the village inn playing Greensleeves and Rakes of 
Mallow though - just to mention two session tunes that existed back 
then. ;-)

..
 > flute' which supports my general feeling that instruments which go so
 > well together today have gone well together in the past, and modern
 > sessions using guitar or cittern are not anachronisms even if the
 > setting and style may be.

There's definite proof you're feeling is right. Even the setting and 
style might be far less anachronistic than you think.

Back in the late 16th Century Britain a typical "pop band" (they used to 
call it "mixed consort" or "broken consort") consisted of a flute 
(virtually identical to a modern keyless Irish flute), a treble viol, a 
cittern, a lute, a bandora and a bass viol.

If you keep the flute and substitute the rest with modern equivalents 
you might end up with the lineup:
   + flute
   + fiddle
   + mandolin
   + solo guitar or octave mando or tenor banjo
   + rhythm guitar or Irish cittern or Irish bouzouki
   + double bass.
Fairly typical of a modern day "folkband."

There are a few stylistic differences:
    + The flute would usually play a counterpart rather than
      doubling the tune
    + The cittern would play chords while a mandolin today
      usually plays the tune
    + The low solo string instrument would play melody/chord
      style rather than just single string lead
    + A bass instrument was almost mandatory back in the
      16th C, less common today.
But that's only to be expected. Traditionally there used to be much more 
emphasis on accompaniment and less on the tune than what is common today.

It's hard to find any evidence of a continuous ensemble tradition 
through the 17th, 18th and 19th century though, and that makes this 
soundhole rose decoration very interesting.

David Kilpatrick also wrote:
 >
 > German flute normally means a side-blown flute with a certain range.
 > Prior to the mid-1700s 'flute' in Britain meant what we would call a
 > recorder, and that's what the instruments look like.

That's not strictly speaking true. There was a period from late 17th C 
to mid 18th C when "flute" in England usually meant (F alto/treble) 
recorder, but before that a flute was a transverse flute and a recorder 
was called a recorder. In 1755, when Oswald published his Airs for 
Spring, Summer, Autumn and Winter modern terminology seems to have been 
firmly (re)established. There seems to be little doubt that the flute he 
refers to is the trasnverse flute.


Frank Nordberg
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