> From: "Ron Banks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 4 Dec 2006 22:46:17 -0600
> To: <[email protected]>
> Subject: [CITTERN] Re: arch-citterns [was: 12-c Saxon cittern]
> 
> All,
> 
> A few years back, I contacted Luca Pianca to ask him about his tunings and
> the instrument that he played on "Bagpipes from Hell," and Il Giardino
> Armonico."
> 
> Here is the text from the Fax he sent me on October 1, 2002:
> 
> "...(greeting omitted).  My cetra was build in Corsica by Hugo Casalonga and
> it's an instrument with 6 courses (1st triple) and, of course, I tuned it in
> different ways. (No additional theorbo-basses).
> 
> In the "Giardino Armonico" recordings"
> 
> 1    d'd'd'    
> 2    a'a'
> 3    e'e'
> 4    c'C
> 5    g'G
> 6    d'D
> Lute tuning in D (Bass Lute)"
> 
> "It's different in "Bagpipes from Hell" with viola da gamba player Vittorio
> Ghielmi (ed. Winkler and Winkler) CD 910 050-02.  This is a "bordone
> tuning," very useful on the cetra."
> 
> 1    e'e'e'
> 2    c'c'
> 3    g'g'
> 4    c'C
> 5    g'G
> 6    C'C
> 
> 
> I hope this helps,
> 
> Ron Banks
> Ft. Worth, TX
> 


Thanks Ron, that is very helpful (on a couple fronts).

seems the instrument in question may in fact be based on some kind of
Corsican folk cetera revived in the 1970's, and then Luca (apparently)
specified his custom requirements beyond that. i.e. from the page linked
below, the maker seems to have cut his teeth doing replicas of the Corsican
folk instrument, and we might assume(?) he then used those construction
particulars as the basis for Luca's instrument?

http://home.tiscali.be/imuvrini/anglais/paghjelAN.htm
. . "The cetera
This renewed interest for the polyphonic chants also made it possible to an
almost vanished traditional Corsican instrument, the cetera, to come out of
the attics. The cetera is a 16 cords instrument (8 metal double cords) of
the family of the cither and zither. It is made out of a broad neck and a
rather large, deep and round case. The instrument is of walnut , spruce, oak
and box wood. It is in the Seventies that the cetera was rediscovered by
some passionate. Less than twenty of them were remaining, practically nobody
could play it anymore. A young violin maker, Hugo Casalonga successfully
will relearn their manufacture. . "

Luca himself calls it a "cetra". Could be the record label's translator dug
up the term "ceterone" form somewhere.

For anyone wanting to recreate "that sound" from Luca's recordings, the
above tuning and stringing info is most helpful. Tuning #1 (Lute tuning in
D, across 6 courses) is essentially Orpharion tuning. For Tuning #2 I wonder
if Luca didn't in fact have in mind some kind of proto "English Guitar"
(sometimes called cittern/cetra etc -- I read in one of Doc's articles). The
lyra-viol pieces Vittorio has made arrangements of are likely from late 17th
century English viol books and manuscripts, e.g. Thomas Mace's book
(Musick's Monument, 1676) or the "Manchester Lyra-Viol Manuscript" (late
1600's).  http://vdgsa.org/pgs/mlvms.html

Vittorio later recorded another CD solely of lyra-viol pieces (taken mostly
from those books) titled "Short tales for a viol" --  if anyone want's to
hear or experiment with more of this style of late 17th cent English viol
music (with possible wire-strung accompaniments in mind).
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/6748356/a/Short+Tales+for+a+Vi
ol+%2F+Vittorio+Ghielmi.htm

The lyra-viol style (often chordal and with altered tunings) goes back to
the early 1600's as well. So even Renaissance cittern could be mated with
same (and was, no doubt).

Thanks 
Roger



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