Jeanie As far as I personally am concerned - I can't speak for other UK judges - there is no ethical dilemma about judging CKCSC. It was agreed as I said previously by the KC, AKC and CKCSC some time ago that we could continue to do so. Of course how long that will be the status quo I know not - no doubt one of these days the KC will decide that the agreement has gone on for long enough and then UK judges will abide by that dictate but until such time....... Annette ----- Original Message ----- From: "JEANIE MONTFORD" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2001 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] that piece of paper > <<<<<< think perhaps the key here is that the AKC has no objection and > really, > being logical and not emotional, why not?>>>>> > > <<to start with a KC warning to judges that they should > > not officiate at overseas events held outside the jurisdiction of kennel > > clubs with which the KC has a reciprocal agreement".>>> > That is why not. > Being logical and not emotional, if the KC is not going to enforce its own > rules, why have them at all????? The KC's position on this is not at all > logical. If they allow people to judge non sanctioned shows without > penalty, then they should not penalize people for breaking any of their > other rules and regulations - so all you people in UK, go for it! As you > are all well aware, there are so many rules and regulations about judging > in UK which the KC rigidly enforces, sometimes quite silly rules which > prevent good and knowledgeable people from judging and woe betide you if you > step out of line and break any of them. But they seem to have no problem > with people breaking the rules provided that they do it somewhere else!!!!! > Call me simple if you like, but we have just had a long and involved > discussion on this list about ethics and the validity of belonging to both > organisations (AKC and CKCSCUSA) so in the light of that discussion, is > there not some ethical dilemma for UK judges who continue to judge at > "overseas events held outside the jurisdiction of kennel clubs with which > the KC has a reciprocal agreement" knowing that this is against KC rules but > doing it anyway? I am not trying to stir.....I am just wondering what > people's thoughts are on this matter. > I know someone is going to say that I judged "old club" shows myself - I > did this when the CKCSCUSA was the only venue for Cavaliers in the USA and I > took a risk in doing so. But now there is a properly recognised and > legitimate organisation (the AKC) whose shows are recognised by my own > controlling body so my ethical stance surely must be to judge in that venue, > as I am subject to the rules and regulations of the Australian National > Kennel Council. > > Jeanie > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
