Susan C. said that finding stud dogs you can and want to use is a problem. I agree,
but only to a point. I've never asked about a dog and been told it was unavailable.
To be sure, some of the terms were
unacceptable...but then I didn't have to use the dog, did I?
I found the same situation years ago in other breeds...the people whose dogs were
readily available often weren't telling the truth about problems the dogs had, etc.,
and in those pre-testing for everything
days, and the days before DNA, I know some people shipped bitches to one dog and the
bitches were bred to other dogs in the kennels...for whatever reason. There was one
woman here in Virginia who let her
kennel manager do all the breedings, and she never knew what dogs were being used on
which bitches. It didn't stop her from signing the stud certificates/litter
registrations. It was because we knew of
these circumstances that my former husband and I maintained our own stud dogs.
When I started in Cavaliers I looked around at the number of beautiful dogs that
would be available to me and said I wouldn't keep males, as it wouldn't be necessary.
HaHa -
I have as many males now as I had in the old days, and co-own another one that I bred.
No deal on that one, either, the people wanted me to co-own him, so I do.
I think part of the problem with finding stud dogs is that the average breeder of
Cavaliers is looking to breed to a big winner, or the latest winner, or the newest
import, or ANY import...often with
little or no regard for pedigree, type, or anything other than health certificates,
and not always even those criteria. Another part is that we let personalities enter
into the equation...I don't like you so
I don't want to use your stud dog.
Not all dogs are at public stud (my definition of public stud means that anyone
with the money and a bitch that meets specific criteria can use the dog), and not all
the remaining dogs are available even
at private treaty (the classic definition of private treaty is that any terms are
agreed upon between the owners of the dogs involved in any prospective breeding...and
the dog is not available to all
comers). Some dogs are simply not available.
I do not believe there is a bloodline in this country that is in demand that is
not available...the dog may be across the country or otherwise difficult to reach, but
almost all dogs can be used by
working out an agreement to use fresh chilled. If not, there's bound to be another
dog that is similarly bred and available one way or another.
If an owner doesn't want to do fresh chilled, so the bitch owner may have to
drive.....
how determined are we?
I did inquire about one dog who has yet to be used....the stud fee wasn't out of
line, and there was no puppy back...but there was a requirement that the stud dog
owner be allowed to purchase 2nd
pick.......that was, to date, the very first time I'd ever heard of that "string"
attached to a stud service. Yes, purchase...but as one who has a tendency to keep all
the puppies that I think should be
shown or bred, and who with extremely rare exceptions, sells the rest as pets, I was
very put off by such a requirement.
I don't think stud fees are out of line in the breed, at least not the ones I've
inquired about. I have heard tales of people asking for more than $1000, but I've yet
to meet anyone who has actually paid
more than that. And I can't imagine paying an $800 or $1000 stud fee from a dog who
has yet to produce winning dogs and Champions. Peggy
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