I agree with you entirely Peggy and I think that I have proved the value of
using an untitled dog this last summer - VBG! In fact I would go so far as
to say that I have never ever used "an in fashion dog" but have waited to
see what said dog has produced.

Annette
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peggy Mickelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2001 3:42 PM
Subject: [CKCS-L] not a champion, a producer of champions


> > I previously wrote:
> > >  And I can't imagine paying an $800 or $1000 stud fee from a dog who
has yet to produce >winning dogs and Champions.
>
> > And Suze replied:  How about $2500? I was quoted that.
> > The above quote was for a champion.
>
> Suze, the fact that the dog is a champion doesn't increase the value of
his stud fee (to me)...my comment was that $800 or $1000 was high for a dog
who hadn't produced Champions, or at least winners.
>    To go further down that road, I don't care if the dog I want to use is
titled or not...if he has the lines I want and has produced dogs I like,
particularly with my own lines.  An unproven dog should not have
> the same stud fee as a dog who has produced dogs that can win....
>      And when I say win, I mean preferably with various people showing the
dogs, not the famous (in any venue you wish) handler, be it pro or owner.
> Peggy
>
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