Anne

"(despite Cardiology clinics held at many of the UK shows)."

A slight exaggeration Anne I can think of only two Clubs - the National and
the Southern that routinely run Cardiology clinics - some of the others do
on an ad hoc basis. The fact that many members use their vets is because the
Cardiologists that are here in this country are few and far between.

"If it is none of anyone's business, then why does the Cavalier Club feel
the need to publish this Heart Registry?"
You are using this out of context - I was writing about my personal opinion.
By all means if people wish to publish they are free to do so but that does
not make others wrong who do not wish to. I used to tick the box that said I
did not wish the information published even though the dogs were eligible to
be entered - the two that are on is because I forgot to tick the box VBG
I suppose I am old fashioned but I abhor the attitude of some that consider
it their "right" to know everything about other peoples business and if they
don't get said information take a holier than thou attitude.
I was brought to believe it was "polite" to ask but also to accept that it
was the other persons "right" not to reply if they didn't wish to.
Strangely enough whenever I have followed this edict (drilled into me by my
aunt) the information and more has been freely given to me

Annette



----- Original Message -----
From: "Cavatibs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Why NOT boast about testing?


> The UK Cavalier Club publishes a Heart Registry, updated every year,  in
which
> is listed Cavaliers (over five years or any age? I can't remember) with
clear
> heart certificates (but not necessarily from a cardiologist - infact less
than
> 10% are checked by a Cardiologist despite Cardiology clinics held at many
of
> the UK shows).  If it is none of anyone's business, then why does the
Cavalier
> Club feel the need to publish this Heart Registry?
>
> The CKCSC also has a Health Registry where dogs of 5 yrs and older with
clear
> cardiology heart test results are published (as well as doppler, eye,
patella,
> OFA hips as a voluntary addition).  Also in this Registry is a list of
deceased
> dogs that have lived to 12 yrs of age.  Also in this Registry is a list of
Stud
> dogs and Bitches who have produced three or more offspring whose hearts
were
> cleared by a cardiologist over the age of 5 yrs.  (If anyone would like a
copy
> of this Registry, or the one from England, you can contact me privately).
>
> In my recent communication with Dr Swensen, a geneticist in Sweden, he
stressed
> the importance of "families".  It is vital that we all know about the
families
> of the dogs we are breeding to and from.  This is why supporting the
> Health/Heart Registries in one's respective country is so important and it
is
> also why health test results are the business of everyone who breeds
Cavaliers.
>
> It is my understanding that it would be better to breed a borderline (note
I
> did not say mild, moderate or severe) dysplastic dog from a litter of OFA
good
> siblings than to breed an OFA good dog from a litter of dysplastic
offspring -
> but in order to make this decision, you need to know about the siblings.
> Likewise, it would surely then be better to breed a dog who has just come
up
> with a grade I murmur at 5 yrs (note I did not say a grade III murmur at 3
yrs
> of age) whose entire family history have cardiologist clear hearts than a
> one-off dog with a clear heart until 7 yrs but whose entire family heart
> history is bad.  Someone once said, without knowledge of the families'
heart
> status, you are breeding blind -- sort of like trying to fix your
automobile by
> randomly selecting various and sundry parts from your neighbors car.  It
> doesn't work well, if at all.
>
> So ..... don't you all think that it is better to work together, health
test
> the dogs, provide the test results, support the various Club's Health /
Heart
> Registries and in general be a little prouder of one's own health tested
dogs
> and a little more supportive of those who own healthy dogs, joining them
in
> their enthusiasm that their dog is older and healthy?  It would be to the
> benefit of all Cavaliers.
>
> Anne
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Annette Jones wrote:
>
> > Well personally I don't think it is anyone's business but mine what I
test
> > for. Should anyone wish to use one of my dogs or buy one of my puppies I
> > will produce the necessary documentation for them to see. Meanwhile I am
far
> > to busy in my life to be broadcasting to the world in general every test
> > result - the result is only worth as much as the paper it is written
on - a
> > dog could be clear when tested last month and have a grade 1 this month.
> > Neither do I think I should "be using all my persuasive powers to
encourage
> > others" -  to me it is up to their own conscience and sounds rather like
> > harassment
> >
> > Just my opinion VBG
> >
> > Annette
> > -
>
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