What did I miss here? Laura, were you asking to use Cathy's dogs? Did I miss a post or something? When did Laura ask about using Cathy's dogs? You hadn't told me that you were planning to? Myra Savant
>From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] Why NOT boast about testing? >Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 02:44:09 -0600 > >NO LAURA what I said was you will NEVER be allowed to use ANY of my stud >dogs. > >Cathy J. Gish > >Laura Trunk wrote: > > > > What possible difference would it make to you if not everyone post >their > > > information publicly. None of my dogs appear in your pedigrees now and > > won't > > > likely ever appear there so my testing information is not necessary to >you > > or > > > anyone else that is not using my dogs. > > > > Are you saying that none of the dogs in my dog's pedigrees are in your >dog's > > pedigrees? You don't have any Telvara, Homerbrent, Salador or Kindrum >dogs > > in your dog's pedigrees? > > > > Polygenic traits are caused by a dog's GENOTYPE--the dog's ENTIRE >genetic > > make-up--NOT just the approx. half of the genes that cause the dog's > > phenotype. Since half of those genes are not seen, we don't know what >they > > are without looking further. The only way to figure out some of a dog's > > geneotype is to know as MUCH as we can about ALL the relatives as >possible. > > > > If a dog develops MVD at age 8--that is that dog's PHENOTYPICAL >expression > > of the approx. half the genes that dog inherited. There are still >almost > > 50% of the genes that dog carries and can give to offspring for that >trait > > that we don't know about. BUT, if you know when his grandparents, > > great-grandparents, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins developed MVD you >would > > have a MUCH better idea of what that dog's genotype. Say you were able >to > > figure out there were 100 somewhat closely related dogs to your dog. If > > many of those dogs had their MVD status posted somewhere (when they > > developed MVD) and you found out that 90% of those posted had developed >MVD > > by age 5--there would be NO surprise when considerably more than half >that > > dog's offspring developed MVD by age 5--which was NOT your intention >when > > you bred to him since HE was clear at age 8! Or vice-versa--if a dog > > developed MVD at age 5 1/2 and you got information on 100 of it's >relatives > > and found out 90% of them were MVD clear till age 8 or 9--you wouldn't >be > > surprised that most of hs offspring were clear considerably longer than >that > > dog. There are no surprises when you breed genotypically--the surprises > > come because you are breeding phenotypically and not paying to the other > > half of those hidden genes. > > > > So the more information one has about all the related dogs in a >pedigree, > > the more one knows about that dog's genotype and the better breeding > > decisions one can make for that dog. > > > > The status of ALL your dogs IS important to my breeding program! > > > > Laura Trunk > > Roycroft Cavaliers > > > > ========================================================= > > "Magic Commands": > > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > > to start it up gain click here: > > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. > >-- >http://www.FlyingColorsCavaliers.com > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 1999 by its original author.
