Hi, Jo Ann,
I give up this morning, my grammar is NOT going to make it today. <G>
Of course I'm talking about physical exam on the table.
At a recent show I happened to be in the position to see the open class
and looking dead at the rears there wasn't a dog in it that wasn't
markedly cowhocked. I'm not talking about a slight bit or a tad
easty/westy, but rather marked cowhocks. Judges have said to me that it
is a problem in Cavaliers that they rarely see fixed?
This is just my observation from up here in New England.........perhaps
the problems with rears and fronts aren't so bad in other places.
Suze
Jo wrote:
>
> What is "went over"? :)
> I've judged a bit...if the dog moves well and looks good..that is like a
> Cavalier..but I can *feel* a structural fault..chances are it will win over
> the dog that "feels" right but moves incorrectly..all things being equal.
> And I do believe many move adequately.
> I don't believe the standard needs fixing, nor do I consider it a blueprint.
> I consider it a guide.
> Jo Ann
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:54 AM
> Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] AKC titles
>
> > Hi, Jo Ann,
> > Yes, I have "seen" that. But I'm not a judge and I always assumed
> it
> > was why the better judges didn't use dogs that they went over and felt a
> > structural flaw that I couldn't see. If, indeed, our breed standard
> > which specifies how a Cavalier should be built can't help us build a
> > Cavalier who can move at least adequately.........then we need to find a
> > way to fix that.
> > Because I can't STAND to see a gorgeous Cavalier who is lame.
> SIGH
> >
> > I think it is the horsewoman in me.
> >
> > Suze
> >
> > Jo wrote:
> > >
> > > No Suze. I wish it were so simple.
> > > Haven't you seen dogs that were incorrect structurally but moved
> > > beautifully? Or were well built and moved badly?
> > > It happens often.
> > > Therefore, first (as Mrs. Clark said) you pick for type.
> > > Jo Ann
> > >
> > > > OK, I'll try it again. <G> I think our breed standard is a blueprint
> > > > for how to "build" a Cavalier. So, isn't it unlikely to have a
> "typey"
> > > > specimen who moves terribly?
> > > >
> > > > Suze
> > > >
> > > > Jo wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > No..not necessarily..the reward goes to the best Cavalier..not the
> best
> > > > > moving dog that closest resembles the Cavalier.
> > > > > I'm not sure I follow "breeding up to the standard". If you are
> > > breeding
> > > > > you should already have Cavaliers that adhere to the standard.
> > > > > Jo Ann Carvill
> > > > > BJ Cavaliers
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > www.bjcavaliers.com
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Susan A. Schlenger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2002 8:17 AM
> > > > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] AKC titles
> > > > >
> > > > > > Yes, me, too.
> > > > > > But I can't help but think of the idea that we are
> supposed to
> > > be
> > > > > > "breeding up" to the standard? So, then wouldn't one reward the
> best
> > > > > > combination of traits over one or the other? Otherwise how can we
> > > > > > improve...............
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Suze
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jo wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I *like* Welsh Springer's and Clumbers...however that has
> nothing to
> > > do
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > it. <g>
> > > > > > > When one of those breeds, moving beautifully, wins BOB for
> Cavaliers
> > > it
> > > > > > > makes me ill.
> > > > > > > <VBG>
> > > > > > > Jo Ann
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Hi, Jo Ann,
> > > > > > > > I like Welsh Springers. <G>
> > > > > > > > But I'd like my Cavaliers to be sound AND typey. Like
> > > yours
> > > > > > > always
> > > > > > > > have been?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Suze
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jo wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Welsh Springers!
> > > > > > > > > Jo Ann Carvill
> > > > > > > > > BJ Cavaliers
> > > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > > > > www.bjcavaliers.com
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Then we might as well have brittanys in the ring with
> > > > > > > > > cavaliers........lord
> > > > > > > > > > knows...some rings look to be a mix of it anyway! :-)
> > > > > > > > > > pam
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > > > From: Susan A. Schlenger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure how this would work if all the "typey"
> > > Cavaliers
> > > > > had
> > > > > > > bad
> > > > > > > > > > > rears or fronts? So, then we reward the gorgeous head,
> good
> >
>
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