Tom, it is pretty simple. Compare the number of breeders to the number of members in 1998. Lots more pet owners than breeders and even at that, the breeders were not all for it.
What happened, happened. Some think that there was some undue influence. There will always be members of any organization who do things that not everyone agrees with and may be a little manipulative. That's life. Doesn't do a bit of good to fuss and complain. The best answer that I have always found for dealing with something that I can't tolerate and can't change is to politely turn on my heel and walk away as soon as a new avenue opened up-- and it did. The problem for a lot of people is that they want both clubs. That simply isn't possible without sacrificing some freedom of choice in the gene pool. All the best, Susan Cochran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tom Faulkner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2002 6:33 PM Subject: [CKCS-L] CKCSC vs. ACKCSC > I have been a member of this list for some years and have seldom > contributed. I held my tongue and replied privately when the subject of > difficulties of membership for pet owners in the American CKCSC club and > its regional affiliates was discussed a week ago. Now it has come up again > and I would like to ask if there is any valid evidence that the 1998 vote > of the CKCSC to reject becoming the parent club for AKC was determined by > pet owners and not breeders? I believe the ballots were secret. At the > time I was an Associate member of CKCSC and of course had no vote. I have > heard it said many times that the reason for the membership restrictions in > ACKCSC stems from that vote. My two dogs (soon to be three) are dual > registered (one also CKC registered) and are shown both in CKCSC and AKC > all-breed shows. I would join AKCSC and Cavaliers of Puget Sound but not > under the onus of two sponsors and kennel visits (for ACKCSC). Further it > seems evident to everyone from what has been said already on this list that > unless you are a breeder you are not welcome as a voting member in the > AKCSC or its affiliates. And even if you are an exhibitor you have no right > to have any vote on breed standards. One wonders how many list members > expressing such views started out as pet owners, then started showing and > finally became breeders. Does acquiring a kennel name and breeding one or > two litters entitle you to a vote on breed standards? If not, then how many > litters and how many years? How many championships? Last year at the > Spokane AKC Memorial Day show I made the mistake of asking two exhibitors > if they were going to attend the Robert Smith Memorial Show in Olympia. > From the reaction I got I might as well have asked if they were going to > commit criminal acts. I later learned they were AKC only breeders. But to > come back to the point, it seems this animosity between breeders and pet > owners stems from the 1998 vote in CKCSC. Who can provide evidence that pet > owners and not breeders determined the outcome of that vote? > Tom Faulkner > > ========================================================= > "Magic Commands": > to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL > to start it up gain click here: > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. > Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > > All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
