Cathy, there is nothing to explain. Each litter is different.
All the best,
Susan Cochran


----- Original Message -----
From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] blood in urine.


> OK well how do you explain my litter of eight puppies and they were all 10
oz
> each. And all survived. Poor mom could not go up or down a step or over a
speed
> bump. I had to carry her out to go to the bathroom. Poor thing was so huge
she
> could barely walk.
>
> No don't explain it I was making a statement not asking a question.
>
> Thanks
> Cathy
>
> Susan Cochran wrote:
>
> > Well, Cathy, the nine puppies would explain the small size as the in
utero
> > nutrition can only stretch so far. However, our average litter size is
4.
> > Most of our puppies are over 8 ounces with the biggest being over 12
ounces
> > (weighed at the vet's as he was born there). For my line, a pup that is
> > under 4 ounces is much smaller than normal. We've had ones that were 4
oz to
> > live and do fine, but not a 3.5 oz one.
> > All the best,
> > Susan Cochran
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Cathy J. Gish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:51 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] blood in urine.
> >
> > > When I bred Kitty to Tartan she had nine puppies all between two and
four
> > oz.
> > > None of these puppies were breathing when born they all had to be
revived.
> > I
> > > ended up with five out of the nine survive. That  was the litter with
> > Cadillac
> > > and Mercedes.  Just makes me wonder what the other would have turned
out
> > to be.
> > > That was one of my favorite litters ever.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Cathy
> > >
> > > Susan Cochran wrote:
> > >
> > > > Dear Lori,
> > > >
> > > > If this puppy is under 4 ounces and hemorraging, it is pretty
hopeless.
> > When
> > > > I read her weight in your first post, I thought "oh, my". I don't
> > remember
> > > > ever having one that small live.
> > > >
> > > > I am sorry that this happened to you. It is always heartbreaking to
> > watch
> > > > these tiny ones suffer. However, I doubt that there is anything that
you
> > can
> > > > do to save the baby. In these sort of situations, I leave the tiny
one
> > with
> > > > its mom until it expires. They seldom live more than 48 hours, just
too
> > > > premie to make it. At least it has the comfort of her care and
warmth.
> > > >
> > > > All the best,
> > > > Susan Cochran
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Lori Waldman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2002 3:25 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] blood in urine.
> > > >
> > > > > I took her to my vet and she rehydrated her and put her on
clavamox.
> > > > > However, when I came home and put her with mom, mom licked her and
she
> > > > > totally hemorraged!  No urine, just blood.  I have separated her
from
> > mom
> > > > (at
> > > > > vets suggestion0, but am very concerned.
> > > > > Any ideas anyone?
> > > > > Lori Waldman
> > > > >
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