Cindy, our cardiologist said the same thing: Can't hurt, but he isn't at all convinced it helps either. Myra
>From: Cynthia Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] MVD and Hawthorn >Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2002 08:31:57 -0500 > >Gil(who is a veterinary cardiologist for those who don't know him) said >that >he hadn't seen any studies that made him think it would do any good for >dogs >that had a murmur but were otherwise asymptomatic, or for prophylaxis(this >was in May 2002). He said to save my money, but it probably wouldn't do >any >harm if I gave it to her, he just didn't recommend it. He may have read >all >the articles, and decided, for any particular reason, that he didn't agree >with the study. He may not have liked all the parameters of the study, the ># in the studies, all sorts of reasons. Or he may not have read the >studies >(don't know, but highly unlikely, most specialists keep up with about >everything in their fields). > As one who is in the medical field, and must read similar articles >every day, there are good and bad studies. For instance, not too long ago, >we thought that hormone replacement therapy would be the fountain of youth >for all menopausal women. These were THE experts in our field, the most >respected. Well, a recently published and much larger study blew that out >of the water. Before this, there were multiple studies from well-respected >institutions that indicated different results. This has changed the way >MDs >and patients view hormones. Not the best time to be investing in drug >companies that have hormones as their #1 product.... > I haven't read the studies on Co-Q, so I can't vouch for their >reliability. And honestly, it would take a group of vets in academic >medicine to vouch for the validity of any study, there are too many >variables that affect the outcome of a study. CoQ 10 may be good, it may >be >harmless, I really don't know, I am just saying that Dr Jacobs is not a big >proponent of it for asymptomatic dogs or for prophylaxis. The fact that >the >most recent article was in JAVA is good, but we had lots of hormone studies >in years past in JAMA and NEJM that were later proven faulty. I haven't >decided whether to give CoQ10 or not...I can certainly afford it, but want >to make sure it won't hurt my dog in any other way.... > Cynthia Jones, MD (an ob-gyn in Birmingham, Alabama)(who used to be an >attorney, thank God I don't do that anymore!) > > > >>From: Harry & Pat Barrington <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List >><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] MVD and Hawthorn >>Date: Mon, 26 Aug 2002 09:40:07 +0200 >> >>Hi Cindy J: >> >>You wrote (regarding Co-Q10): "....I know Gil Jacobs told me that he >>thinks the CoEnzyme Q10 is "voodoo medicine" and not to bother with >>it,..." >> >>Did Mr. Jacobs say "why" he believes this? I have several research >>references which are contrary to this statement but am certainly open to >>someone else's reasoning :) I do provide a CoQ10 supplement for my dogs, >>especially the older ones. We once had a vet on our list (Dr. Jory Olson) >>who also recommended it; however, (to my recollection) said it was more >>beneficial to dogs with more advanced heart disease. >> >>Pat Barrington - Barrington Cavaliers (Southern Ontario-Canada) >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>========================================================= >>"Magic Commands": >>to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >>to start it up gain click here: >>mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL >> >> E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >>Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html >> >>All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. > > > > >_________________________________________________________________ >Join the world�s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. >http://www.hotmail.com > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > >E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. 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