Dave, as the owner of a dog who is in the top 25 AKC dogs in the US, I can tell you that the reason we don't show heavily in CKCSC is because of the expense incurred flying all over the US with our dogs in Cargo. Frankly, we would rather stay in our own home state and travel by car with our dogs to the shows; whether we do the handling, or whether we pay someone else to do it for us. Sometimes, Dave, you can get pretty insulting with some of your opinions. Myra
>From: Dave Wagner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: The Cavalier King Charles Spaniel List ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [CKCS-L] N American dogs showing in the UK >Date: Sun, 6 Oct 2002 11:46:44 EDT > >In a message dated 10/6/2002 7:03:22 AM Eastern Standard Time, >[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > What does the list think? Will the professional handlers be able to >adapt to > > our more casual approach to showing dogs? > > > >I hope not I would like to see that particular critter become extinct. > >If the judges hold true to what I have heard and seen in competition in the >UK, i.e. no substance in the coat, no trimming, proper presentation, etc... >(and they actually enforce it folks) pro handlers will not catch on in the >UK, they can't survive in a world where they have to win based solely on >their handling/presentation skills as in my opinion it is the grooming >(legal >and illegal) and political connections (advertising) that gives them the >edge >more then anything. Not to say some are not very skilled at handling and >presentation. I personally don't think they would find the UK market >lucrative enough to show up in numbers. > >More interesting will be the results if some of the bigger winning dogs in >the USA compete over there. (Some came from there originally). IF (and a >big IF) these dogs are forced to compete totally naturally and maybe even >on >non-pro handlers will they win? I think there are some of real quality >substance winning here that would find (surprise to some maybe themselves) >they CAN win in the UK WITHOUT the fluffing and trimming and pro handler, >because the dog is really good quality. Maybe (I'm dreaming) this would >lead >to them not feeling they needed to employ those tactics over here and the >end >result would be good for everyone. Of course there are some who win big >here >who could not win without those extra tidbits and that would also become >apparent if they competed in the UK however I doubt few of these dogs will. >The owners aren't stupid and this is also why some of the big winners in >the >AKC that are dual registered do not compete in the CKCSC because they know >they could not win in that environment and the real quality of their dog >might be questioned. > >Dave >CastleMyst Cavaliers >http://members.aol.com/CMystCavs > >========================================================= >"Magic Commands": >to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL >to start it up gain click here: >mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL > > E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. >Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html > >All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author. Myra Savant Gardengate Cavaliers _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ========================================================= "Magic Commands": to stop receiving mail for awhile, click here and send the email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20NOMAIL to start it up gain click here: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]?body=SET%20CKCS-L%20MAIL E-mail [EMAIL PROTECTED] for assistance. Search the Archives... http://apple.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ckcs-l.html All e-mail sent through CKCS-L is Copyright 2002 by its original author.
