At 01:14 PM 4/17/2010, Jim Preston wrote:

First, anyones system that stopped sending mail, it was not a malicious act just that their system can not handle the signature update that was sent out. Secondly, they all had both the chance to update before it happened OR configure their systems to be RELIABLE in event of a software failure.
Having failed to either are throwing temper tantrums like a child.

And lastly, did not your parents tell you using such language is not polite?

Jim, you have to be one of the most ignorant and arrogant individuals on the Internet today!

You are yourself guilty of slander in your replies to several people complaining here in the mailing list.

It seems that in your endless arrogance and ignorance, the damage that you (who ever is behind this insane decision within the ClamAV project) have caused is far beyond your comprehension...

You could have simple stopped providing updates to older ClamAV installations, but NOBODY, NOTHING in this world give you the right to mess with running systems in a way you did! No, you had to step up and play judge and executioner. The above quoted user might have gone a bit too far in his personal attacks, but he is still right at the very basic issue. What you have done is simply illegal and detrimental to the very values you are pretending to uphold. You have resorted to the very same behavior like those lowlife malware distributors that you pretend to protect people from.

You have not only done damage to those who's systems you have effected but to the ClamAV project and in fact to the whole Open Source idea in general. As far as I am personally concerned, though I have not been effected by the forcible shutdown myself, I will take this issue to the FSF, to make sure that something like this will never happen again.

How can people trust any Open Source software if someone else decides at will which operational systems are being shut down, which services are being interrupted. And there are not only your "lazy or stupid wannabe sysadmins", how about those end user implementations that use ClamAV as their scanning engines?

I think some people within the ClamAV project seriously need to grow up and get out of their ivory tower and made clear that they are responsible for their actions, just like any such sysadmin you are whining about will have to be held accountable for possible damage that is done by not keeping their system up to date. But again, it is not your place to hold them accountable. You can't just do as you please just because you consider yourself untouchable in the depths of the Internet. This very thought will be the end of any attempt to have Open Source been taken serious, ever...

Ralf Quint

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