Ralf Quint wrote:
At 01:14 PM 4/17/2010, Jim Preston wrote:
First, anyones system that stopped sending mail, it was not a
malicious act just that their system can not handle the signature
update that was sent out.
Secondly, they all had both the chance to update before it happened
OR configure their systems to be RELIABLE in event of a software
failure.
Having failed to either are throwing temper tantrums like a child.
And lastly, did not your parents tell you using such language is not
polite?
Jim, you have to be one of the most ignorant and arrogant individuals
on the Internet today!
You are yourself guilty of slander in your replies to several people
complaining here in the mailing list.
It seems that in your endless arrogance and ignorance, the damage that
you (who ever is behind this insane decision within the ClamAV
project) have caused is far beyond your comprehension...
You could have simple stopped providing updates to older ClamAV
installations, but NOBODY, NOTHING in this world give you the right to
mess with running systems in a way you did!
No, you had to step up and play judge and executioner. The above
quoted user might have gone a bit too far in his personal attacks, but
he is still right at the very basic issue. What you have done is
simply illegal and detrimental to the very values you are pretending
to uphold. You have resorted to the very same behavior like those
lowlife malware distributors that you pretend to protect people from.
You have not only done damage to those who's systems you have effected
but to the ClamAV project and in fact to the whole Open Source idea in
general. As far as I am personally concerned, though I have not been
effected by the forcible shutdown myself, I will take this issue to
the FSF, to make sure that something like this will never happen again.
How can people trust any Open Source software if someone else decides
at will which operational systems are being shut down, which services
are being interrupted.
By configuring your systems to be tolerant of such failures of software
which will happen for a variety of reasons.
And there are not only your "lazy or stupid wannabe sysadmins", how
about those end user implementations that use ClamAV as their scanning
engines?
I think some people within the ClamAV project seriously need to grow
up and get out of their ivory tower and made clear that they are
responsible for their actions, just like any such sysadmin you are
whining about will have to be held accountable for possible damage
that is done by not keeping their system up to date.
But again, it is not your place to hold them accountable. You can't
just do as you please just because you consider yourself untouchable
in the depths of the Internet. This very thought will be the end of
any attempt to have Open Source been taken serious, ever...
Ralf Quint
Thank you Ralf for having taken the time to investigate my
qualifications. I am sure you have used what you consider due diligence
in your investigation. With that investigation, can you tell me who,
when, how I slandered any one? I have not resorted to calling anyone names.
Also, it is you who are slandering as I am not connected in any way with
the ClamAV team except as a user. As such I did not affect anyones
system in any way.
Jim
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