Hi Micah, On Fri, 23 Jul 2021, Micah Snyder (micasnyd) via clamav-users wrote:
I'm sad to hear how much effort it was to install CMake ...
It's the sort of thing that happens with computers. :/
... very surprised to hear that it crashed your machine.
To be fair it's not hard to crash a Raspberry Pi4B. They're not at all like the earlier models. The 3B+ that I use for my desktop has always been a lot more reliable. Frankly if I knew three years ago what I know about them now I'd have been against getting them, but a lot of effort is invested into making them work and they pretty much do what's needed of them for a power consumption of a few percent of that used by the boxes they replaced. Things like AMD Opterons can use more power than a Pi just for the cooling fans. Our Pis don't have cooling fans.
... Which os/distro/arch are you using?
Linux, Raspbian (as near as dammit Debian), armhf. Raspberry Pi4B, 4G RAM, all storage is NFS mounted over 1Gbit/s Ethernet.
You mention Debian Stretch (9) ...
That was then. Now it's Buster (10). In case it matters, I built cmake just for the user which builds the ClamAV binaries, it wasn't a system-wide install. I didn't build these systems myself; I just did the mail stuff, and I didn't want to break anything which might want to use the system's cmake - I don't even know if anything does.
... in a new docker debian:9 container it takes 2.971 seconds ... real 0m5.178s user 0m2.971s
Well 5.178 seconds by the wall clock, but that was still over 3,600 times faster!
You're right that milter is required by default now. The approach with the old build system was so the optional stuff would be skipped if you didn't have it. ... we ... don't test the project in every variation ... users should still be able to expect that a default build gives them all the features.
All understood. To me it seems like a lot of big steps all at once with a project that has so many users with such a wide variety of systems, use cases and and skill sets but I guess we'll get to know more about that when the 0.104 release actually hits the fan. :)
... you can use `-D ENABLE_MILTER=OFF` and then skip the milter ...
Sure, I saw that in the docs but didn't want to throw any more spanners into the works than I had there already. Normally I don't build the milter because the clamd server doesn't run an MTA, my own milters run on the mail servers and handle the communications with the clamd server.
Sorry I really have zero interest in bringing back and update Autotools for 0.104. For what it's worth, we do plan to publish a clamav 0.103.4 patch version alongside an 0.104.1 version in probably 2 months (give or take). Depending on how 0.104 adoption goes, we could have an 0.103.5 version as well, but I don’t expect that we will.
It doesn't matter to me of course, now that I've built a version of cmake which can build ClamAV, but going back to the numbers of users and the variety of systems I just wonder if it's going to cause you pain further down the line. Thanks for the help and thoughts, and good luck with 0.104. :) -- 73, Ged. _______________________________________________ clamav-users mailing list clamav-users@lists.clamav.net https://lists.clamav.net/mailman/listinfo/clamav-users Help us build a comprehensive ClamAV guide: https://github.com/vrtadmin/clamav-faq http://www.clamav.net/contact.html#ml
