On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 17:17:34 +0000
"Joel Esler (jesler)" <jes...@cisco.com> wrote:

> > On Sep 20, 2021, at 13:08, Paul Kosinski via clamav-users 
> > <clamav-users@lists.clamav.net> wrote:
> > 
> > These two IPs are Anycast addresses, and have been unchanged for well over 
> > 2 years. (Anycast addresses don't have to change even if the physical 
> > servers change, that's their point!) They are:
> > 
> >  104.16.218.84
> >  104.16.219.84  
> That’s what they are for you.  Cloudflare routes you to the closest pop to 
> your network.  Your mileage may vary

===================

I thought the IP addresses, being Anycast, were what are routed to the closest 
POP.

No matter, when I resolve "database.clamav.net" via various DNS servers, using 
TCP to bypass the default local DNS server (as our firewall blocks outbound UDP 
port 53 otherwise), I always get these same two IP addresses as results (see 
below) 

Given that the servers at 1.1.1.1, 8.8.8.8 and 9.9.9.9 are "public", and likely 
Anycast, while 71.243.0.12 is local Verizon/FIOS, I suppose that the 
Authoritative server and the public (Anycast) servers could conceivably be 
distributing different IP addresses depending on who is querying. (BIND/named 
has become incredibly complicated these days.) But since the two IP addresses 
are themselves Anycast, what would be the point?

In any case, does anyone, anywhere, get IP addresses other than

  104.16.218.84
  104.16.219.84

when resolving "database.clamav.net"?
  
------------------------------------------------------------
  
  $ dig +tcp +all @1.1.1.1 database.clamav.net
  
  ; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> +nocomments +nostats +nocmd +tcp +all 
@1.1.1.1 database.clamav.net
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 5920
  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
  
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;database.clamav.net.         IN      A
  
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  database.clamav.net.  31      IN      CNAME   
database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       271 IN A 104.16.219.84
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       271 IN A 104.16.218.84
  
  ;; Query time: 11 msec
  ;; SERVER: 1.1.1.1#53(1.1.1.1)
  ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 20 15:28:17 2021
  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 118
  
  ---------------
  
  $ dig +tcp +all @8.8.8.8 database.clamav.net
  
  ; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> +nocomments +nostats +nocmd +tcp +all 
@8.8.8.8 database.clamav.net
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 49012
  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
  
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;database.clamav.net.         IN      A
  
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  database.clamav.net.  19      IN      CNAME   
database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       300 IN A 104.16.218.84
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       300 IN A 104.16.219.84
  
  ;; Query time: 31 msec
  ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8)
  ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 20 15:21:13 2021
  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 118
  
  ---------------
  
  $ dig +tcp +all @9.9.9.9 database.clamav.net
  
  ; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> +nocomments +nostats +nocmd +tcp +all 
@9.9.9.9 database.clamav.net
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 29165
  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
  
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;database.clamav.net.         IN      A
  
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  database.clamav.net.  60      IN      CNAME   
database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       300 IN A 104.16.218.84
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       300 IN A 104.16.219.84
  
  ;; Query time: 91 msec
  ;; SERVER: 9.9.9.9#53(9.9.9.9)
  ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 20 15:30:17 2021
  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 118
  
  ---------------
  
  $ dig +tcp +all @71.243.0.12 database.clamav.net
  
  ; <<>> DiG 9.8.4-rpz2+rl005.12-P1 <<>> +nocomments +nostats +nocmd +tcp +all 
@71.243.0.12 database.clamav.net
  ; (1 server found)
  ;; global options: +cmd
  ;; Got answer:
  ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 12056
  ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
  
  ;; QUESTION SECTION:
  ;database.clamav.net.         IN      A
  
  ;; ANSWER SECTION:
  database.clamav.net.  60      IN      CNAME   
database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       144 IN A 104.16.218.84
  database.clamav.net.cdn.cloudflare.net.       144 IN A 104.16.219.84
  
  ;; Query time: 16 msec
  ;; SERVER: 71.243.0.12#53(71.243.0.12)
  ;; WHEN: Mon Sep 20 15:21:39 2021
  ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 118



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