Per Bothner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I didn't see this message (it doesn't seem to have made it to
> java-discuss), so I don't know what the "real problem" referred to is.

The dynamic IP I had from Time Warner cable modem service was
apparently in the black hole list (ORBS), or their mail server was on
the list since I do use them as a smart relay.  

Brian
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Brian Jones <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

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