I agree.  We are going to look at moving away from Clean Access because of 
no third party OOB support.  But until now we couldn't justify the cost 
(and the fact that the software could easily be loaded on new hardware in 
case of failure), now with forcing us to buy appliances the third party 
vendors price tag just became $20,000-$30,000 cheaper.  An extra $20,000 
and we will be able to facilitate a years worth of maint, more licenses 
than we had with CCA, OOB, and integration with our packetshaper as well 
as our firewall and IPS. Not to mention we can't get Cisco to add SMP 
support for servers and non-super cam.  I have a quad processor cam and 
dual processor servers with cpus idle meanwhile other cpus are sometimes 
hitting max load under file transfers and they are 3+Ghz CPUs. I am 
beginning to confuse the Cisco name with Apple. Both have good 
ideas.......But execution is poor.  Bradford here I come, good bye Cisco.

Sincerely,
Sidney Eaton, CCNA, Network+, NCSS, NCDE, CCSE
Network Technician
Ferris State University
205 West Building
Big Rapids, Mi 49307
(231) 591-5388
For Support Call (231) 591-4822 or www.ferris.edu/tac



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Jeremy,
 
You can’t tell me that Cisco is introducing features so advanced that the 
boxes we have now would not be capable of running it. The boxes we run are 
nearly identical to probably 50% of the people not running Cisco branded 
equipment, on this list.
 
There have been other issues in the last year related to the NAC that have 
caused me to start evaluating other options, this is just icing on the 
cake. One big reason we didn’t switch this year was that we didn’t want to 
fuss with new equipment… I can only see Cisco losing customers because of 
this. 
 
Michael Stanclift
Network Analyst
Rockhurst University
 
Conway Hall, Office 415
1100 Rockhurst Road
Kansas City, Missouri 64110
(816) 501-4231
 
From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeremy McGuinn 
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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:10 PM
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Subject: Re: Need to upgrade Server hardware....
 
Bruce and Michael, 
 
I understand your concerns about your internal end-of-life plans vs Cisco 
introducing the appliance, but lets be reasonable. All applications have 
changing hardware requirements depending on the version you are using. 
 
Changing to a Cisco appliance may have many advantages over third party 
hardware especially when it comes to Cisco’s control over developing the 
upgrade process, and in the long run it could be less expensive because of 
the fact that the appliance is Cisco hardware and will have a longer 
end-of-life.
 
I am just knuckle dragging engineer so please contact your account team 
reps for a full cost justification of migrating to an appliance. Then you 
can judge if it makes sense, and you will have a short/long term cost 
justification for management.
 
Regards, 
 
Jeremy
 

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Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 1:37 PM
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Todd,
 
So, does this mean that those of us that are using our own hardware will 
either need to re-purchase them with appliances or move to a different NAC 
solution?
 
That’s a great upgrade plan!
 
Bruce Osborne
Liberty University
 
From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joyce, Todd N
Sent: Monday, July 07, 2008 12:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [CLEANACCESS] Need to upgrade Server hardware....
 
From Cisco Live (Networkers) here is what I learned -
 
All 4.5 and higher will require the new Cisco hardware
 
4.5 Due in late Fall (Oct/Nov)
4.6 Due in Spring (March/April)
 
 
Todd Joyce
Network Services
Radford University – The Smart Choice
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(540) 831-7777
 
Keep your boots and ChapStick and ice hotels.
Give me shorts and sandals and a thirty-blocker.
 
Temperance Brennan – Monday Mourning
 

From: Cisco Clean Access Users and Administrators on behalf of Mike Linval
Sent: Mon 7/7/2008 11:54 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Need to upgrade Server hardware....
So we run CCA software on our own hardware, have since before Cisco
purchased it.  We are going to replace our hardware and so I went to the
Cisco website to check on supported hardware. 

Is the supported hardware info up to date?  We use Dell and they dont even
offer some of the supported hardware specified in the document.  Also, 
does
CCA support quad-core processors?


Thanks for the help

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