We've been using 1.9 in a small app for a while with no issues. After upgrading schema to the latest version (with the PR above) I've also successfully run our larger codebase with 1.9.
On Tuesday, October 3, 2017 at 4:41:14 AM UTC-7, stuart....@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Mark, > > I think this approach totally makes sense, and the alpha naming exists to > inform this kind of decision-making. > > For libraries where the use of spec does not have to be user-facing, I am > putting specs in separate (Clojure) namespaces, and loading them in such a > way that they can coexist with non (or maybe different) spec environments. > But that is extra work for sure. > > Stu > > On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Mark Engelberg <mark.en...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 7:55 AM, Stuart Halloway <stuart....@gmail.com >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> Hi David, >>> >>> Spec will be in alpha for a while. That is part of the point of it being >>> a separate library. Can you say more about what problems this is causing? >>> >>> Stu >>> >>> >> As a library maintainer, I am forced to upgrade and release my library >> any time something I depend upon makes a breaking change. I don't get paid >> for maintaining open source libraries, it's something I do in my spare >> time, so I prefer to do it on my own schedule. When an underlying library >> makes a breaking change, I get dozens of urgent requests from people who >> need me to cut a new release ASAP, and by Murphy's Law, that often happens >> when I have very little time to do it. It's a nuisance. >> >> Clojure is pretty good about not making breaking changes, but it happens >> from time to time. Clojurescript is less good about not making breaking >> changes, and therefore, maintaining Clojurescript libraries is more of a >> headache. On the plus side, Clojurescript users seem to care very little >> about backwards compatibility (most keep up with the latest version), so >> sometimes it is easier to make a change to keep up with a change in >> Clojurescript than one in Clojure, where I am expected to not only support >> the latest breaking change, but also the last several releases. >> >> Anything that is labeled as "alpha" is waving a big red flag that there >> could be breaking changes at any time with little warning. For my >> libraries which depend on spec, there's no way I'm going to bring them out >> of alpha status until spec comes out of alpha status. If I make an >> official release of something that depends on spec, then I'm going to be on >> the hook to rapidly cut a new release every time spec changes, which could >> be at any time. I don't want that hassle. I don't want to make a promise >> to the community to maintain a stable product if the thing I depend upon >> has not made a similar promise. When spec reaches a point where the API >> will not be changing, or rather, when we know that new changes will only be >> additive, I can begin to trust that it won't be a huge maintenance headache >> to release something based on spec. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Clojure" group. >> To post to this group, send email to clo...@googlegroups.com >> <javascript:> >> Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with >> your first post. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:> >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en >> --- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Clojure" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to clojure+u...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
