Maybe a good new approach would be to combine working with CLI and some minimal or existing editor that just supports bracket-matching and re-indentation?
I'm led to this from listening to David Nolen's "Embracing Simpler Tools" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0Lv53lop2g), although I'm taking a leap because the video doesn't show David's slides or screen, so I'm guessing about a lot of what he was showing. The workflow could be similar to what I use and teach with now (leinengen command line + Gorilla REPL) but each piece might be simpler to set up and use. I guess this rules out bells and whistles like arg/doc display and auto-completion. But if the rest of the story is really good then it'd be worth it. Does this make sense to people who know more about CLI? And does anyone have suggestions for editors that would work well for this? It could be something minimal, maybe running in a browser window (like gorilla REPL and other systems do, but simpler to set up). Or maybe something like TextMate but with Clojure re-indentation, which it doesn't look like it currently has? Thanks, -Lee On Monday, August 27, 2018 at 9:45:34 AM UTC-4, Lee wrote: > > This is my roughly-annual check-in to see if there are new good > editing/execution options for me to use in my Clojure teaching and coding. > > My requirements are: > > - Simple installation/setup, even for new programmers, on Mac/Win/Linux > > - Usable by new programmers without significant training or learning curve > > - Syntax-aware re-indentation > > - Visual indication of matching brackets (e.g. matching bracket > highlighted, or rainbow brackets, etc.) > > - No required use of paredit or parinfer > > Bells and whistles that would help but aren't as critical as the > requirements listed above: > > - Access to argument lists, documentation, and symbol completion while > typing > > - Integrated REPL, although a command-line REPL paired with an editor that > met the requirements above would work > > I would be interested in solutions that work for Clojure and > Clojurescript, or just Clojure, or just Clojurescript. > > Recent developments of which I'm aware but fall short of my requirements: > > - Nightcode and Lightmod, which would be fabulous if not for the required > use of parinfer > > - Jupyter-based approaches, which also seem great except I see none with > syntax-aware re-indentation for Clojure > > FYI what I'm currently using is a combination of Gorilla REPL and > leiningen at the command line. This is quite nice although > installation/setup is not as easy or foolproof as I would like (I've had > students who tried and failed to get it working on their Windows laptops > for an entire semester, messing with Java versions etc.), Gorilla REPL is > not very actively maintained, and the requirement to do some things at the > command line isn't ideal. > > Options I've used in the past, which more-or-less met my requirements but > are no longer viable, include Clooj, Nightcode (old versions, before > parinfer), and Counterclockwise. > > I also try to keep an eye on "high-end" IDEs like Emacs and Cursive, but > so far haven't found any that really meet my requirements for simple > installation/setup and usability for beginners. > > Any pointers would be very much appreciated! > > Thanks, > > -Lee > > -- > Lee Spector, Professor of Computer Science > Director, Institute for Computational Intelligence > Hampshire College, Amherst, Massachusetts, 01002, USA > lspec...@hampshire.edu, http://hampshire.edu/lspector/, 413-559-5352 > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
