On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Chas Emerick <cemer...@snowtide.com> wrote: > > We shipped production software built in Scala last year, but likely > will never do so again given clojure. Our primary motivating factor > is the degree of complexity in the Scala, but since you're looking for > "auxiliary" factors: > > - clojure has a far richer "ecosystem" -- there's a metric ton of > community-contributed libraries and lots of people moving in very > interesting directions. Maybe I missed them, or they've sprung up > since I moved over to clojure last summer, but I've not seen a lot of > scala libraries floating around. > > - clojure's community is, in general, more friendly, more helpful. > There are certainly lots of pleasant people in the scala world, too, > but I've yet to see a pissing match in #clojure, whereas #scala has > had a number of them (despite the former being more heavily > populated). I attribute this to the attitudes, demeanor, and near- > constant presence of Rich and other "core" contributors.
I find myself caught by surprise by these observations, as Scala has been covered in the media for a longer period of time. I don't know about the availability of 3'rd party libraries, but the IRC numbers, as of right now, is certainly correct. It could be taken to indicate that Clojure has a greater momentum than Scala. > > - The tooling story is roughly equivalent, I think. Neither community > has a home-run effort, but both have lots of promising contenders for > various IDEs. > > All of the above is obviously, gratuitously IMHO. > > - Chas > > On Mar 27, 2009, at 4:20 PM, Jon Harrop wrote: > >> >> >> Can anyone who has tried both of these languages to a decent degree >> compare >> them in practical terms? In other words, I am not interested in the >> technical >> aspects of the languages themselves (e.g. dynamic vs static typing) >> but >> things like IDE support, tools (lexers and parsers), standard >> libraries, >> books and their quality, existing commercial applications and the >> commercial >> viability of shipping products targeted at their programmers (e.g. >> libraries)? >> >> I've never done anything significant on the JVM so I'm interested in >> picking >> one of these two languages and shipping a product for it. I've done >> a lot of >> commercial work with F# over the past 2 years but all Microsoft- >> related sales >> have died this year so I'm looking to diversify... >> >> Many thanks, >> -- >> Dr Jon Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd. >> http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?e >> >> > > > > > > -- Venlig hilsen / Kind regards, Christian Vest Hansen. --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
