On Mar 25, 2010, at 19:55 , Chas Emerick wrote:

> I published a blog post earlier today, along with a short screencast that 
> might be of interest:
> 
> "Like any group of super-smart programmers using a relatively new language, a 
> lot of folks in the Clojure community have looked at existing build tools 
> (the JVM space is the relevant one here, meaning primarily Maven and Ant, 
> although someone will bark if I don't mention Gradle, too), and felt a rush 
> of disdain. I'd speculate that this came mostly because of XML allergies, but 
> perhaps also in part because when one has a hammer as glorious as Clojure, 
> it's hard to not want to use it to beat away at every problem in sight."

I slowly get the feeling that build tools are too much in the focus. Why don't 
we start up with a good shell integration, being able to run clj <my script> go 
nice and including dependencies in jars and stuff.

Making it easy to work with plain .clj files to include, load, run them would 
get us a huge way ahead and I think kind of freeing us from what I feel as the 
burden of the java world.

Regards,
Heinz

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