On Jul 2, 8:33 pm, David Nolen <dnolen.li...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 3:21 PM, James Keats <james.w.ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > And once you encounter the
> > reality and frustration infamously characterized by likening the
> > managing of lispers to the herding of cats then you begin to admire
> > languages like python and java and see what they got right in imposing
> > restrictions.
>
> I've yet to see any evidence anecdotal or otherwise that managing a team of
> good Lisp programmers is any more difficult than managing good programmers
> in any other language. Links?
>

Sure, "good lisp programmers", I have no argument against that, the
key operative word here being *good*; where do you find those in large
enough numbers to fill industry positions? I would also like to be
specific about what "good" would entail: it has to entail some
knowledge of what would actually work in the large and be
maintainable, and a personal maturity that would prevent them from
becoming too excited and overly adventurous. Unfortunately the
industry is not made of "good lisp programmers".


> > A very recent quote by Abelson is relevant:
> > "One of the things I’m learning here (Google) is the experience of
> > working on these enormous programs. I just never experienced that
> > before. Previously a large program to me was a hundred pages or
> > something. Now that’s a tiny, little thing."
>
> One of the most popular text editors to this day is Emacs. It's near 3
> million lines of Lisp.
>
> David

Versus the countless libraries and apps of Java and python?

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