On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 10:16 AM, Steve <stephen.a.lind...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Jul 4, 9:08 pm, Ken Wesson <kwess...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> That's actually a bit worrying. I'm not sure I want a potential
>> security hole into my computer, such as a repository, being "handled
>> for me" without having *some* input into the matter. For example if I
>> intend to use it purely locally I'd want to firewall the port it's
>> using to make sure it's unreachable from any address other than
>> 127.0.0.1.
>>
>
> No, there's no server, no port, nothing to firewall. It's just a
> directory (~/.m2/repository).

So, not actually a repository, then. :)

> Well exactly - by using an independent build tool you decrease the
> likelihood of your build being tied to a particular IDE. If I'm using
> Netbeans on linux, and you're using Eclipse on windows I'd be more
> confident of being able to build your project if you're using maven/
> lein/cake/etc. than if you're using the IDEs built in project
> management facilities or a bunch of shell scripts (or ant for that
> matter).

One problem with that is that you generally can't *not* use your IDE's
built in project management unless you don't use an IDE at all (vi,
emacs, Notepad, whatever rather than Eclipse, IDEA, Netbeans,
whatever).

> I think that Greenspun's tenth rule has an analogue in hand rolled
> build systems - most of them end up being a crappy implementation of
> 10% of maven's functionality (and maven is not that nice to begin
> with :)

That's not *too* bad, compared to Greenspun's 50%. On the other hand
I'd think the more natural comparison would be to make, which after
all long predates maven and may even be half as old as Common Lisp. :)

-- 
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Master: Your father's Lisp REPL. This is the language of a true
hacker. Not as clumsy or random as C++; a language for a more
civilized age.

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