Regarding don't want to learn Java. I understand fully, but can I suggest downloading a major java-IDE and make some small and simple java-katas in it?
I would suggest IntelliJ IDEAs Community Edition (there are other, ofc) and then going through some examples from the surprisingly well written Java tutorials on Oracles site: http://docs.oracle.com/javase/tutorial/ Understanding how java works is the key to understand a lot of the sometimes apparently quirky java-interop stuff and you probably wont die in the meantime, I promise. There's also a few strange things going on in readers, streams and exceptions that is really good to have a clue of. This could be four or five very well spent hours on your way to master Clojure. Stop when programs goes into a 100 rows or so, those programs can usually be done much much quicker in Clojure. Best regards, Linus 2012/2/16 Sean Corfield <seancorfi...@gmail.com> > I don't think your tone is very helpful Armando. It's perfectly > reasonable to ask for specific examples - so that there are actionable > tasks we as a group can take on, rather than just some vague "the > documentation is too Java-centric" complaint. > > When I read the OP, I was not sure what he was really complaining > about or asking for. I don't agree with the assertion that all the > documentation assumes Java knowledge - and clearly a lot of non-Java > programmers have managed to pick up Clojure just fine. > > Even tho' I have Java experience, I had no experience with Maven so > the whole library dependency thing was new to me - but it didn't seem > Java-centric. I had experienced the classpath aspect of Java but, > frankly, Leiningen completely hides that. The only "required" Java > experience, as far as I can see, is if you _choose_ to use Java > libraries within Clojure - and even that is just a matter of reading a > library's documentation and applying the interop rules... > > Your snide remark about a build tool is not appropriate given how > popular Leiningen is and how much work Phil and many others have put > into it. > > Sean > > On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 7:38 PM, Armando Blancas <abm221...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Can you provide some more specific examples of what's missing? > > > > Surely you're joking, Mr. Hagelberg. > > > >> I don't know any Java and was able to manage pretty well. > > > > This is no time for modesty, lest the OP might feel his troubles > > aren't even valid. Perhaps better to say that a rudimentary grasp of > > Java (language, libraries, tools) can go a long way. Then one day... > > we'll get a killer build tool or something. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups "Clojure" group. > To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com > Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with > your first post. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Clojure" group. To post to this group, send email to clojure@googlegroups.com Note that posts from new members are moderated - please be patient with your first post. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to clojure+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/clojure?hl=en
