Sure, but you have assumed that you have a perfectly working clojure 
environment set up. *That* is the hard part.

On Friday, February 15, 2013 12:19:34 AM UTC+1, vemv wrote:
>
> I never tried out core.logic. This is how I just got it "installed" in 
> less than a minute. Really no magic here:
>
> lein new foo; cd foo
> # google "core.logic", grab the dependencies vector ([org.clojure/core.logic 
> "0.7.5"]), attach it to your project.clj
> lein repl
>
> (use 'clojure.core.logic)(run* [q]
>   (== q true))  
>
>
> Same principle for practically every single Clojure lib.
>
> On Friday, February 15, 2013 12:08:18 AM UTC+1, Jules wrote:
>>
>> You are certainly not alone. Learning the language and concepts is very 
>> easy for me, but the sysadmin stuff to get set up is so much harder. 
>> Believe it or not, I had much more trouble with installing core.logic than 
>> understanding it. It doesn't end either, you bump into more problems once 
>> you try to do something interesting. Just try e.g. to call the LLVM C api 
>> from Clojure, I have not succeeded to this day (was trying to implement a 
>> LLVM backend for Clojurescript). You have the same problem with many open 
>> source projects, they are simply not focused on user friendliness, it's 
>> certainly not a Clojure specific problem. If you are on Windows the 
>> problems are 10x worse. Compare this with e.g. Visual Studio. You install 
>> it, and everything just works. Package manager, calling C functions, 
>> powerful GUI libraries, IDE with debugger, syntax highlighting, 
>> autocomplete, etc. From the first minute on you are programming rather than 
>> sysadmining. I wish we had the same experience for Clojure.
>>
>> On Thursday, February 14, 2013 7:42:57 PM UTC+1, BJG145 wrote:
>>>
>>> Having studied Lisp decades ago I like the look of Clojure a lot. But as 
>>> a complete newbie when it comes to modern software development, I'm 
>>> exasperated by what strikes me as a very difficult and primitive set of 
>>> tools to get started. I keep seeing "Leinigen, Leinigen", and the Leinigen 
>>> homepage boasts that "Leinigen offers the easiest way to get started with 
>>> Clojure", but this simply isn't true. The easiest way to get started with 
>>> Clojure that I've come across so far is IntelliJ IDEA. If I hadn't found 
>>> that I'd probably have given up by now. 
>>>
>>> What got me back into programming recently was a Lua-based development 
>>> environment for Android called Gideros. Lua seems popular for developing 
>>> apps for some reason. (Cf Corona, Moia, Unity). It seems like quite a neat 
>>> language, though I'd like to use something more Lisp-like. Maybe the tools 
>>> are just too difficult for me at the moment, though I'll persevere for a 
>>> bit. I'd like to achieve some simple graphics on an Android device at 
>>> least. I've come across some tutorials for CLojure and jMonkey and I'm 
>>> wondering to dive into that, though I'm still unsure whether OpenGL is the 
>>> way to go for simple 2D stuff...
>>>
>>

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