Sean, for what it's worth many of us do appreciate the slow and careful 
development of java.jdbc. When it's used so widely in production code 
frequent breaking changes are very costly. The new 0.3.0 API is pretty 
nice, though I have found documentation for it somewhat lacking. That said, 
I haven't found time to contribute to it either.

Perhaps this thread isn't the right place, but I am curious about the 
rational and plans for the sql namespace. Is this going to be fleshed out 
to be more fully featured over time? Why choose to integrate it rather than 
have it as a separate add-on? 

Thanks for the work on jdbc. :-)

Alex


On Tuesday, November 19, 2013 2:28:16 PM UTC-5, Sean Corfield wrote:
>
> To Michael: It is fairly up to date - there have only been a few small 
> changes to java.jdbc since the last updates to that part of 
> clojure-doc.org. Now that java.jdbc 0.3.0 has hit beta and has a 
> stable API for release, I feel more comfortable about updating the 
> clojure-doc.org pages to include the handful of changes that are 
> missing. It has been expanded quite a bit from the original version 
> that was part of the clojure.java.jdbc repo. 
>
> I'm a little disappointed that after moving it to clojure-doc.org 
> specifically to remove the CA barrier to entry, none of java.jdbc's 
> users have taken the time to provide updates to the documentation 
> site. The whole point of moving it to clojure-doc.org was to enable 
> community contribution. 
>
> To Andrey: I'm a bit disappointed you didn't offer to contribute to 
> java.jdbc's documentation since you found it lacking, and that you 
> didn't raise your concerns about either the documentation or the API 
> with me, rather than creating your own library based on the old API. 
> Open source projects improve through collaboration. 
>
> That said, there's always room for more libraries and alternative 
> approaches. I'll be a lot happier with java.jdbc when I'm able to 
> strip the old API out after it has been deprecated for a few releases 
> - and I'll point out that the API changes from 0.2.x to 0.3.0 are 
> primarily in response to feedback from Clojure/core. java.jdbc is in 
> fairly heavy production use these days so I'm having to be more 
> conservative about changing it than I would if it were just "my" 
> project and not a Clojure contrib library :) 
>
> Sean 
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Michael Klishin 
> <michael....@gmail.com <javascript:>> wrote: 
> > 
> > 2013/11/16 Andrey Antukh <ni...@niwi.be <javascript:>> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> - Lack of documentation. 
> > 
> > 
> > FTR, there is some documentation for java.jdbc, but it certainly 
> > isn't being actively worked on (despite not being covered by the CA) and 
> may 
> > already be out of date. 
> > 
> > http://clojure-doc.org/articles/ecosystem/java_jdbc/home.html 
> > 
> > If you'd like to contribute: 
> > http://github.com/clojuredocs/guides 
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