Ok, so consider a different system (besides google) that handles the JSON 
example. If it has no prior knowledge of the date field, of what use is it 
to know that it's a date? What is a situation where a system reading the 
JSON needs to know a field is a date, but has no idea what the field is for?

On Saturday, January 18, 2014 1:27:31 PM UTC-8, Jonas wrote:
>
> IIRC in that particular part of the talk he was specifically talking about 
> (non-self describing) protocol buffers and not JSON.  
>
> On Saturday, January 18, 2014 10:00:09 PM UTC+2, Brian Craft wrote:
>>
>> Regarding Rich's talk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ROor6_NGIWU), can 
>> anyone explain the points he's trying to make about self-describing and 
>> extensible data formats, with the JSON and google examples?
>>
>> He argues that google couldn't exist if the web depended on out-of-band 
>> schemas. He gives as an example of such a schema a JSON encoding where an 
>> out-of-band agreement is made that field names with substring "date" refer 
>> to string-encoded dates.
>>
>> However, this is exactly the sort of thing google does. It finds dates, 
>> and other data types, heuristically, and not through the formats of the web 
>> being self-describing or extensible.
>>
>>
>>

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