Possibly. I don't want to throw anything too experimental out, so if the
ideas pan out enough to be worthwhile and I have a chance to clean things
up and document it, we'll probably open source it.


On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 1:42 PM, Rob Knight
<[email protected]>wrote:

> Sean, I checked out your presentation and Zenrise demo video.  Is there a
> plan for any of that to be open sourced?
>
> On Saturday, 29 March 2014 17:58:14 UTC, Sean Grove  wrote:
> > Omchaya hasn't been touched in ~25 days, mainly because we've been
> exploring some pretty deep rabbit-holes around this, and haven't had time
> to come up and consolidate it all. A few thoughts before I run out:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We don't make enough use of Om's features for Omchaya - we should
> definitely be using :shared, for example. I'm not sure if it was available
> at the time, but we certainly didn't stop and find out what it was until
> recently (which is a bummer for us, it's a great idea)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > The components in Omchaya aren't reusable in the slightest, mainly
> because they conflate layout, styling, component tree-structure and
> app-state structure. I wrote some slides for a short talk I gave at the
> last sfcljs meetup
> http://sgrove.github.io/talks/understanding_ui_complexity/understanding_ui_complexity.html#/
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We've figured out a good way to separate component-tree structure from
> app-state that's worked out very well for us, and that's by representing as
> much as possible as data, and using functions to transform them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > We've also started experimenting with layout systems, which are a
> nightmare in the browser (and a generally involved topic anyway). This is
> something that the performance of om/set-state! (and a non-rendering
> version of om/set-state!) is great for, but kills the ability to swap out
> layout engines.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To that end, with the right hooks, we may end up bypassing a lot of Om
> since with the almost-everything-as-data approach we have (potentially)
> much better whole-app awareness.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > But, all that is to say, it's early days, and it's pretty exciting to be
> able to improve on that nightmare that is browser UI, and potentially end
> up with a much better story than the native world has enjoyed for over a
> quarter of a century. It's kind of the wild-west, and we should be
> experimenting like crazy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 9:23 AM, David Nolen <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > This is getting closer but I think will write up my own
> thoughts/opinions on Om application architecture soon. While the existing
> tutorials are nice for understanding how Om works, I think a rough guide to
> architecting Om applications would be useful to all - not the least because
> it will likely need many refinements as we put the ideas into practice.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 29, 2014 at 5:22 AM, Daniel Bell <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > So, I figured it out, and wrote a blog post on why this is a terrible
> idea:
> >
> >
> >
> > http://roninhacker.wordpress.com/2014/03/29/how-to-build-stuff-with-om/
> >
> >
> >
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