On 1 December 2010 17:10, Roger Truss <roger_tr...@mercmarine.com> wrote: > > Sorry you dislike it so much. We have been using it for a couple years now > and I was able to customize the version we have so techs really only need to > enter in an image name, userid and password to access the host storage server. > > I have tried to do the same with newer versions with little success. > > The version we are using is. clonezilla-live-1.1.0-8 The only reason is > because of its ability to be modified within the Microsoft environment. It > took me days to figure it out but now it works great. > > In fact here is the document I made so I could duplicate the process when new > versions came out. Unfortunately the newer versions were so different that > the doc was useless, so I said , the version we have is just fine.
Apparently we both want a usable tool which the current clonezilla is not. On 1 December 2010 17:18, Art Alexion <a...@rhd.org> wrote: > Hi Michal, > > Let me clue you in on how free, open source software works. > > It is put together, usually and mostly by volunteers who don't get paid for > their time. It is often produced to serve a particular need of the > developer, who then graciously shares it with the public. Indeed, and I thank the author for showing that writing such software is possible and what tools are required. That the resulting software is of no use to me does not change this. > It costs you nothing. This is a myth. It costs you learning how to use the software (which can be comparable to rewriting if the software in question is poorly documented), implementing the missing features, and maintaining them if upstream does not accept them. > > Most importantly, nobody forces you to use it. If you don't like it, or it > doesn't suit your needs, just don't use it. I'm not going to, thank you very much. > > Constructive comments, suggestions, and source contributions are generally > appreciated, ad hominum attacks are just rude. In the name of constructive criticism and source contributions I downloaded the source, looked at it, registered for this list and posted about things I dislike about the software. Could you, please, cite where I used an ad-hominum attack? Perhaps I need to improve my understanding of English, I am not a native speaker. Regards Michal > > -- > Art Alexion > Systems Engineer -- Infrastructure Engineering Group > Resources for Human Development > > > >>>---> -----Original Message----- >>>---> From: Michal Suchanek [mailto:hramr...@centrum.cz] >>>---> Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2010 10:55 AM >>>---> To: Clonezilla-live@lists.sourceforge.net >>>---> Subject: [Clonezilla-live] Why clonezilla sucks >>>---> >>>---> Hello >>>---> >>>---> I tried to use clonezilla. >>>---> >>>---> While there are some bits of good software clonezilla fails epically at >>>---> putting these pieces together so that they can be actually used. >>>---> >>>---> 1) everything is needlessly cryptic and there are virtually no docs >>>---> >>>---> - the docs (only a reference card) are in *downloads* section, there is >>>---> no docs section at all >>>---> - the FAQ has very little information on actually using the thing, >>>only on >>>---> resolving issues provided you are already using the thing >>>---> - the scripts that are used to run the actual imaging use some tlas >>>for a >>>---> dozen of options interspersed with filenames spanning half the >>>---> terminal line >>>---> >>>---> 2) the user-available options are lacking >>>---> >>>---> - I don't want to answer every time that it should use en_US.UTF-8 >>>---> locale, no keyboard layout, and such junk. I can understand that this is >>>---> important for people with odd locales but make it one choice at least, >>>---> not three >>>---> - gparted is not included which is according to some stfw results the >>>---> only way to actually get the target drive partitioned sanely >>>---> - there is no way to specify target partition sizes (except by >>>restoring >>>---> partitions one by one to a pre-partitioned drive) although the script >>>can >>>---> supposedly clone smaller disk to lager one resizing partitions >>>---> proportionally so it must have partition resizing functionality included >>>---> >>>---> 3) the source is junk >>>---> >>>---> - there is only a makefile that copies some stuff to your system as >>>far as >>>---> I can read makefiles but does not build anything >>>---> - there is no doc saying what you need to build and how to build >>>---> - there is no index saying which file does what in the script directory >>>---> with tens of cryptic scripts in there >>>---> - there is no VCS. I can't believe the author does not use one. >>>---> >>>---> Thanks for making clonezilla. It tells me which 5 tools I will need if I >>>---> wanted to clone a disk using free software. >>>---> >>>---> I guess I will have better luck adding them to my own d-l images than >>>---> trying to figure out how clonezilla is supposed to be used, though. >>>---> >>>---> Regards >>>---> >>>---> Michal >>>---> >>>---> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >>>---> Increase Visibility of Your 3D Game App & Earn a Chance To Win $500! >>>---> Tap into the largest installed PC base & get more eyes on your game by >>>---> optimizing for Intel(R) Graphics Technology. Get started today with the >>>---> Intel(R) Software Partner Program. 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